[Free]

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You play 6♠, and West leads ♥K. You can make this contract however the minors are distributed. How do you play?
(you can assume West also has ♥Q)

[Fluffy]

You are giving the clue in the explanation Free, althou I think you need ♠2-2 for that to work.

[paulhar]

Cool problem! Here's my solution (hidden - you should really try the problem ):

Spoiler

duck the King of hearts.
West must shift to a trump. I play four rounds, discarding a diamond.
Then, CK, C to A, HA discarding club.
Ruff the club.

Somebody must have a club else I have 12 tricks.

If it's West, I play the last trump, bringing West down to one diamond, then play a diamond to the King, extracting his last diamond, and take the marked finesse.

If it's East, I play the last trump, discarding the jack of hearts if it's not good, and either my C9 scores or I take the last three diamond tricks.

I might have to do some additional thinking if hearts are 8-1, but with East having so many minor suit cards, it seems as if there must be a solution here too. Frederick, let me know if this is necessary.

[1eyedjack]

I suspect that you have it right, paulhar. However, the wording of the problem specifies that you make it *however* the minors are distributed. I fear that your line fails when East has a minor suit void and a trump (West switches to East's void at trick 2).

[Free]

Fluffy, on Sep 6 2004, 11:14 PM, said:

You are giving the clue in the explanation Free, althou I think you need ♠2-2 for that to work.

For what to work? Btw, if I don't say you can asume West has ♥Q, then you'll come to the same conclusion anyway, since nobody leads his K from Kx(+)...

[skorchev]

I gonna make squeeze:

First, I will play A♥, and then finesse ♣(I guess it will lose, else I made), I guess West will continue with trump, then I will open all (!) trumps, now I have to discard 3 cards, first is small ♦, second - small ♥ and on the third (the squeeze card) I'll discard J♥(if West discard Q♥ I will discard ♣ and J♥ is my 12 trick, but I guess he will not discard it ) now I open A♣ and K♣.
1.) If East is 4th♣, then West has ♥Q♦Qx or East has ♦Qx♣10, but never mind the Queen of diamond is SECOND so I open AK♦ and the J♦ is a big card.
2.) If West is 4th♣, then he has ♥Q♣10 and ONE diamond and East has 3 diamonds, so I will open K♦ and if West give small I will finesse the third Queen of diamonds in East.


Stefan

[Free]

I think you're VERY close Skorchev, but not 100%

Question/hint: how do you know who has the ♣s before you play the ♦s?

[whereagles]

If trumps are 22 there's a simple loser-on-loser endplay. I guess that's what you should try first, no?

[luke warm]

i don't see the problem, sorry

duck the heart... trump comes back.. draw trumps, diamond to board, toss club on ♥A, diamond to A, finish trumps... i *think* this is left:

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on last spade, west keeps his heart.. toss dummy's... east keeps his diamond, play clubs

the reason i said i don't see the problem is cause i only see one line lolol

[skorchev]

I think there is misunderstanding, Frederick. I will try to be more clear this time.

1. A♥-x♥
2. x♣-J♣ (it will lose)
3. x♠-A♠ (I guess he will play x♠, it looks safest for the defence)
4. K♠-x♠
5. Q♠-x♠
6. J♠-x♦
7. 10♠-x♥

The 6-card endshpil:

♠ -
♥ J
♦ Kx
♣ Axx


♠ x
♥ -
♦ AJx
♣ Kx

8. x♠-J♥ (I guess West will not discard Q♥, so I discard the J♥, if West discard Q♥ I made)
9. K♣-x♣
10 x♣-A♣

The 3-card endshpil:

The cards of NS:
♠ -
♥ -
♦ Kx
♣ x


♠ -
♥ -
♦ AJx
♣ -

The cards of EW:
1.
♠ - ------------ ♠ -
♥ Q ----------- ♥ -
♦ Qx ---------- ♦ xx
♣ - ------------ ♣ 10

or

2.
♠ - ------------- ♠ -
♥ Q ------------ ♥ -
♦ Q ------------ ♦ xxx
♣ 10 ----------- ♣ -

or

3.
♠ - ------------- ♠ -
♥ Q ------------ ♥ -
♦ x ------------- ♦ Qxx
♣ 10 ----------- ♣ -

When I open the ♣A one of the defenders will discard something (they are 4-2 in ♣ and A♣ is third round ♣ which I play).

If East is longer in ♣ (look variant 1.) so EW is 2-2 in ♦ and I will open K♦ and after A♦ and J♦ is a big card => I MADE.

If West is longer in ♣ (look variants 2. and 3.) I will open K♦ and if West play small I will finesse the third Q♦ in East => I MADE.

I hope that now I'm more clear.


Stefan

[Free]

Ok, I indeed misunderstood that one. Your line already works when RHO has at least 2 ♣s.

Only thing which is still a problem: if RHO has void or singleton ♣, all these lines will fail...

[helium]

IF ♠ are 2-2 i whould make it like this i think.
Ace of ♥,ruff a♥ draw 2♠play♦to king, ruff last♥, ace of ♦ and ace of ♣ and last♦ now u should read the ending easy.


kenneth

[skorchev]

Free, on Sep 7 2004, 05:48 AM, said:

Ok, I indeed misunderstood that one.  Your line already works when RHO has at least 2 ♣s.

Only thing which is still a problem: if RHO has void or singleton ♣, all these lines will fail...

Yes, Frederick, if there is singleton ♣ (except single Q♣) I gonna down. But I think this percentage is much much lower than 2-2♠. And if there is a void ♣ in RHO I still made because these is squeeze ♥-♣ on LHO. If LHO is void ♣ then I still have chances - ♥-♦ squeeze on LHO or ♦-♣ squeeze on RHO.

So I think the only way to go down on 6♠ is 5th Q♣ in LHO.


Stefan

[Free]

I can garantee you that there is a line of 100%

[Free]

WOOPS!!! I made a typo!!!

You don't have ♣J, only K54

VERY sorry

[skorchev]

OK Frederick, I'm waiting to see what is it ... (btw there never is 100% line, if the hearts are 9-0 you go down)


Stefan

[helium]

Free, on Sep 7 2004, 08:23 AM, said:

WOOPS!!!  I made a typo!!!

You don't have ♣J, only K54

VERY sorry

Ok a bit differen then, ace of ♥ ruff a ♥, 2 times ♠,♣king,♣to ace ,♦king and then ♥Jack pith last♣ and west is endplayed, if he still have more ♣ ill ruff and play my ♠3(whitch i have ceept)to dummy and take finnes in ♦


kenneth

[flytoox]

draw trumps, duck one round c, then marked single or dbl sqz. or c 33.

[whereagles]

1. Duck heart
2. Take club shift (best defense) in hand
3. Pull trumps
4. Cross to club ace and discard club on heart ace
5. Ruff a club and watch...
6a. Clubs break: 12 tricks
6b. If club guard on West, execute heart/club guard squeeze against West
6c. If club guard on East, execute double squeeze heart/diam vs West and club/diam vs East

Must duck heart trick 1. Otherwise East might take the later club duck and switch to a diam and it's game over.

Did I get it right?

[helium]

whereagles, on Sep 7 2004, 09:39 AM, said:

1. Duck heart
2. Take club shift (best defense) in hand
3. Pull trumps
4. Cross to club ace and discard club on heart ace
5. Ruff a club and watch...
6a. Clubs break: 12 tricks
6b. If club guard on West, execute heart/club guard squeeze against West
6c. If club guard on East, execute double squeeze heart/diam vs West and club/diam vs East

Must duck heart trick 1. Otherwise East might take the later club duck and switch to a diam and it's game over.

Did I get it right?

how could west be scveesed in ♥ and ♣/♦ after u played 3 times hart?