[twcho]

Team match with screen

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Will you double last round? What does this double show?
OK, partner double now. What do you think about it? (North explained that his LR+ can be based on 3 cards support and south immediate bid of 2♠ is the weakest action showing minimum overcall hand)
What choice will you make?

[TylerE]

Pass. Partner's X here isn't takeout.

EDIT: I'm not crazy of the previous X. It should show at least a robust opening, which this ain't.

[mgoetze]

Let's not talk about what your first X meant. Instead, let's talk about 2♦ would have meant, because I don't see why you didn't bid it.

[the hog]

mgoetze, on 2010-December-01, 01:23, said:

Let's not talk about what your first X meant. Instead, let's talk about 2♦ would have meant, because I don't see why you didn't bid it.

What it would have meant, had he bid it, is that he had a much better hand than he actually had!

[andy_h]

I would have bid 2D on the previous round. There are two ways in which you can play the double of your suit (2C) is. First meaning is "I would have rebid 2C" and the second meaning is takeout of spades (pretending the auction was like 1C-(1S)-P-(2S)-X). I much prefer the latter.

[Phil]

I'm fine with the double of 2♣. I don't think I want to force this to the 3 level r/w with a partner who could not make noise over 1♠. Even if you play lead stopping doubles, I think they are a very poor idea after we open 1 minor, so double shows this hand type.

Hard to believe partner has a penalty x of 2♠. Maybe he has the MIkeH hand of xxxx-3-3-3 and an 11 count and wants to compete. I'll try 2N which is scrambling and implies a side red suit along with the clubs I have already shown.

[Fluffy]

IMO oopponents are in a 4-3 fit, but there seems to be too much points around. Not my problem, I pass.

What does exactly double of 2♣ show for people? I never know how to treat this doubles. It can be a 6+ suit inviting to compete, or just lead directing, both make sense but I don't know what is standard.

[mikeh]

I think the most popular way to play the first double is more or less as used at the table....good, long clubs, but with a hand or suit, or both, not good enough to bid 3♣....the double is a 'coward's way' of bidding 3♣ and I don't mean that in a pejorative sense.

I surely would not have bid 2♦ which, imo, should show the shape and the values for what it is: a reverse.

The second double is penalty. I don't think it can be a 'mikeh hand' of 4=3=3=3, because we have already shown primary clubs, so partner can either compete in clubs or cue 3♠ if sufficiently strong.

It is possible that the opps have stumbled into a 4-3 fit (we have seen examples of hideous 4 card overcalls in these fora), since otherwise it is difficult to see how partner did not have a notrump bid or a negative double last time while still having a penalty double now....maybe he is something like KJ9x Kxx xxxxx x? Of course, opposite that, we haven't beaten 2♠ yet, but we can hardly run to 3♦ (or 2N)

[ArtK78]

I agree completely with MikeH (which should make him feel all warm and fuzzy).

The double of 2♣ shows good clubs. It doesn't promise anything else.

The double of 2♠ is for penalties. In the context of partner having a single suited club hand (or something close to a single suited club hand) it makes no sense for the double of 2♠ to be for takeout. Other than defending 2♠, there should only be one playable spot available for the partnership at this point in the auction - 3♣. Responder is in a position to bid 3♣ if that is what he wants to do. He didn't do that - he doubled. Double is natural in this auction.