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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2010-November-07, 09:30

w/r MP

Kx AJxxx KQJx xx

P 1S 2H 2S
3H P P 3S
P P ?

3H was partner's only heart raise below game. 3S was fast, but your opponents are both bad.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 11:02

Double, hoping we get +200 for a good matchpoint score. If we have game, we are likely to go +500 on defense.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 11:59

IMO we did good enough already to push them to 3. There is too much random on the hand to aim at a little target of 1 down, if we score 2 down or they make I am just happy passing.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 12:26

I double....I never used to do this, and would hope, as does Fluffy, to collect 200...and all too often, would collect 100 and get an average to average minus.

I have an easy lead, a decent chance of 3 or even 4 tricks in my hand and I am entitled to some help from partner. I wouldn't dream of doing this at imps.

I know....dummy will have AJxx xxx x J10xxx (you did say they were bad) and rho Q10xxx x Axx AQxx and they chalk up 3 overtricks....is that more than their cold slam?

Heck, I have almost talked myself into passing.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 17:44

I think it's a double. If you pass I hope you were at least reallllllly tempted to double.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 17:45

I'd double, but I hate matchpoints, meh, not bridge.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 18:35

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-November-07, 17:45, said:

I'd double, but I hate matchpoints, meh, not bridge.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 18:56

View Postrogerclee, on 2010-November-07, 09:30, said:

w/r MP Kx AJxxx KQJx xx
P 1S 2H 2S
3H P P 3S
P P ?
3H was partner's only heart raise below game. 3S was fast, but your opponents are both bad.
IMO 4 = 10, _P = 8, _X = 4.
A downside of 4 is that opponents may wake-up and bid a making 4.

IMO, Match-pointed pairs is more of a test of skill than IMPs.
Furthermore, for teams, although BAM is quite a good way of scoring, an even better method would be to add the match-points of team-mates over the whole field.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 06:33

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-November-07, 17:45, said:

I'd double, but I hate matchpoints, meh, not bridge.

I disagree, it's actually the purest form where accuracy counts on every hand. Every single trick counts, bidding to the correct contract is always important,... Bidding a 35% game is ridiculous in this form of scoring, it's pretty much forced when vul playing imps. I must admit that it's a completely different form of bridge. ;)

Anyway I'd Double. If you don't let them make some doubled contracts, you're not doubling enough. We have an easy lead and some defense.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 07:19

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Posted 2010-November-08, 09:54

Pass. I'm not tempted to double. Seems like mp panic to me.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 12:08

Free, I'm not sure you're disagreeing at all. At least when I say it, there's no denigration. Matchpoints is a fascinating game - I really enjoy playing it - but it's not Bridge, it's Matchpoints.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 15:50

View Postmycroft, on 2010-November-08, 12:08, said:

Free, I'm not sure you're disagreeing at all. At least when I say it, there's no denigration. Matchpoints is a fascinating game - I really enjoy playing it - but it's not Bridge, it's Matchpoints.

I understand you might think this way, but for me, before BBO spread I played 98% of my boards at MPs, now with BBO maybe closer to 90%, what I understand by bridge is matchpoints, and there is a lot of people like me.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 15:56

This was 1st session? I don't remember it.

Seems like I'd x, especially against the fish in that field.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 17:45

Partner had xx KTxx Axx xxxx. They can take 8 tricks in spades, you can take 10 tricks in hearts (LHO has stiff Q, RHO has the spade A).

LHO had her bid, xxxx Q xxx KQT9x, and did well not to bid more the first time, since then we would be in 4H.

+200 was worth about an average (brutal), so presumably +420 would have been worth a lot and +100 not very much.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 20:02

View Postmycroft, on 2010-November-08, 12:08, said:

Free, I'm not sure you're disagreeing at all. At least when I say it, there's no denigration. Matchpoints is a fascinating game - I really enjoy playing it - but it's not Bridge, it's Matchpoints.

View PostFluffy, on 2010-November-08, 15:50, said:

I understand you might think this way, but for me, before BBO spread I played 98% of my boards at MPs, now with BBO maybe closer to 90%, what I understand by bridge is matchpoints, and there is a lot of people like me.
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