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Posted 2010-November-05, 17:55



Cuebid or introduce your own suit? Perhaps this one is wtp :)
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Posted 2010-November-05, 17:59

wtp, support with support
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Posted 2010-November-05, 18:15

What would dbl promise?

I'd like partner to tell me more about his hand, this should be easier if we keep the level low.
I can show support later.
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Posted 2010-November-05, 19:15

Double.
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Posted 2010-November-05, 19:38

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-November-05, 17:55, said:



Cuebid or introduce your own suit? Perhaps this one is wtp :)




2s if forcing 1r.
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Posted 2010-November-05, 19:50

Obvious 2S for me. Partner will have a far better idea to know what to do in the auction if I show what I have rather than if I make a nebulous cue bid.
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Posted 2010-November-06, 04:38

I don't mind doubling opponents if the auction gets violent because I am balanced, but I'd be worried to double them only if there is a double fit or partner has long enough hearts to rebid them by himself.

So 2 will place us in a better position whenever this gets violent. It is also cheapr for constructive hands so sounds perfect.
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Posted 2010-November-06, 22:44

If you double:
Spoiler


If you bid 2:
Spoiler


If you bid 3:
Spoiler

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Posted 2010-November-06, 23:56

View Postthe hog, on 2010-November-05, 19:50, said:

Obvious 2S 3 for me. Partner will have a far better idea to know what to do in the auction if I show what I have rather than if I make a nebulous cue bid. support before they jump in


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Spoiler

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Posted 2010-November-07, 00:59

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Posted 2010-November-07, 02:49

what do you mean phil?

after 5 I have an average hand with 3 useful keycards, that should be enough for 6 but probably not for 7.

Anyway I bid 6 now to let him know its a double fit hand.

I bid 6 because I don't have enough extras for 7. If playing 5NT keycard I might try, but partner won't know how to evaluate idamond void if he has it.

EDIT after I realised how stupid playing hearts is condeming us to lose second and third round of clubs if partner is 4504 or 3505.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 23:35

This hand is coupled with the "Bidding Plan?" thread: http://www.bridgebas...4-bidding-plan/



Was our auction at the table. I'm not convinced it's right to show spades here, since if the auction comes back at some high level, we may be badly placed. I certainly see the merits of it though. I chose 3 at the table, and after that, the spade suit was lost forever. We did well to get to 6 after the rough start, but reaching a spade grand on these hands seems awfully tough.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 00:23

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-November-07, 23:35, said:

This hand is coupled with the "Bidding Plan?" thread: http://www.bridgebas...4-bidding-plan/



Was our auction at the table. I'm not convinced it's right to show spades here, since if the auction comes back at some high level, we may be badly placed. I certainly see the merits of it though. I chose 3 at the table, and after that, the spade suit was lost forever. We did well to get to 6 after the rough start, but reaching a spade grand on these hands seems awfully tough.


Not if you bid first. Of course with such a limited hand in terms of point count, I would certainly have opened the hand with 1 rather than 1. It is not difficult to forsee the problems of losing spades in a competitive auction.
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Posted 2010-November-08, 02:06

Hi,

This one is not a wtp.

I would start with 2S, even the king of diamonds seems to be placed
ok, so starting with spades will help you best investigating a slam,
I dont have a lot fear, if they start raising diamonds, and even if
they will do, a 3D bid, wont stop them.

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Posted 2010-November-08, 06:25

Since we have a nice hand, I'd bid 2. I don't have much trouble bidding 5 later if they preempt us badly, but at least partner will have a better picture of my hand.
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