[pooltuna]

You are kibitzing the dealer who is only moments away from keeling over and dying whereon you will sit in his place for the remainder of the hand. At all white, playing IMPS he picks up

♠T76532
♥743
♦KT8
♣2

The auction proceeds

West North East South
P......3♣.....X......P
3♠.....P......4♠ all pass

the opening lead is the ♦A and dummy flops with

♠AK98
♥AQ982
♦7
♣AJ6

and the first 3 tricks are
T1 A♦,7,3,8
T2 K♣,A,5,2
T3 A♠,4,2,J

at this point the dealer flops and it is your turn. I will tell you that all the good players know exactly how many tricks they are going to take assuming no silly plays by the opps. Do you? and what is your line? Non B/I players should state their exact actions for this BBO hand and why?

[Cyberyeti]

11 tricks for me

Spoiler

K♠, ♣ruff, ♦ruff, ♣ruff, K♦, heart and beat the card played.

[billw55]

or 11 tricks another way:

Spoiler

LHO, who held the ♦A and apparently the ♣KQ, opened 3♣ in second seat. Hence he cannot hold the ♥K. Finesse Q at any time.

[pooltuna]

billw55, on 2010-November-01, 14:43, said:

or 11 tricks another way:

Spoiler

LHO, who held the ♦A and apparently the ♣KQ, opened 3♣ in second seat. Hence he cannot hold the ♥K. Finesse Q at any time.

Ordering of the hands is difficult but the preemptor sits in front of the AQ of ♥

[pooltuna]

both responses failied miserably to take the correct expert action which was at trick 4 to
1) CLAIM
2) then delineate the correct course
3) failing to claim is tantamount to playing for a mechanical error by the opponents

[vuroth]

I was tempted to post "heart on the diamond", guessing that discarding the club on the K♦ would be the beginner error.

Instead, I'll just say "Cyberyeti's line"

[NickRW]

pooltuna, on 2010-November-02, 08:54, said:

both responses failied miserably to take the correct expert action which was at trick 4 to
1) CLAIM
2) then delineate the correct course
3) failing to claim is tantamount to playing for a mechanical error by the opponents

Yes, well, in - er - typical company with someone as expert as yourself claiming like that, the old dears defending are going to say, "play it out, play it out - I don't see what you're saying at all". At which point I am going to have get off my bum and adjudicate - which will, in the end, take longer than if you had not claimed in the first place - quite apart from the fact that my table is now behind!

Nick

[pooltuna]

NickRW, on 2010-November-02, 11:42, said:

Yes, well, in - er - typical company with someone as expert as yourself claiming like that, the old dears defending are going to say, "play it out, play it out - I don't see what you're saying at all". At which point I am going to have get off my bum and adjudicate - which will, in the end, take longer than if you had not claimed in the first place - quite apart from the fact that my table is now behind!

Nick

This is specifically on BBO not IRL bridge.

[NickRW]

pooltuna, on 2010-November-02, 14:56, said:

This is specifically on BBO not IRL bridge.

Yuh, well, on bbo, apparently from a recent thread, you can claim all remaining tricks and they just wimpishly go "yeah".

Sorry, I am being unnecessarily awkward. Thanks for a good problem. My kids have had fun with it.

[pooltuna]

NickRW, on 2010-November-02, 16:30, said:

Yuh, well, on bbo, apparently from a recent thread, you can claim all remaining tricks and they just wimpishly go "yeah".

Sorry, I am being unnecessarily awkward. Thanks for a good problem. My kids have had fun with it.

in truth I only posted it because a pickup pard actually lost 2 heart tricks on the deal

[billw55]

pooltuna, on 2010-November-01, 16:07, said:

Ordering of the hands is difficult but the preemptor sits in front of the AQ of ♥

aha. oops.

Cybereti's line is 100%. Yours is dubious