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#1 User is offline   JoAnneM 

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Posted 2010-September-28, 11:12

As declarer I am used to GIB falsecarding almost 100% of the time. I just never believe the robots, but think it is silly they have been programmed to do this. Not only that I think they would have some directors after them in a real tournament if they never played to stated "Carding is 3/5, with what appears to be standard count and attitude signals. Gib does falsecard."

However, when defending it is just very frustrating. It is like the robot is just playing its own hand and ignoring the fact it has a partner! Does the GIB really look at my signals? Is the GIB really playing standard (hi-low), really playing suit preference? Or is GIB programmed to constantly falsecard his own partner when it is important. Seems like it.

The few people that win a lot of the tournaments seem to have this figured out. I win occasionally, and place most of the time but would like to do better, and would certainly enjoy the game with a more reliable GIB as far as carding is concerned.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 12:25

JoAnneM, on Sep 28 2010, 05:12 PM, said:

As declarer I am used to GIB falsecarding almost 100% of the time. I just never believe the robots, but think it is silly they have been programmed to do this. Not only that I think they would have some directors after them in a real tournament if they never played to stated "Carding is 3/5, with what appears to be standard count and attitude signals. Gib does falsecard."

However, when defending it is just very frustrating. It is like the robot is just playing its own hand and ignoring the fact it has a partner! Does the GIB really look at my signals? Is the GIB really playing standard (hi-low), really playing suit preference? Or is GIB programmed to constantly falsecard his own partner when it is important. Seems like it.

The few people that win a lot of the tournaments seem to have this figured out. I win occasionally, and place most of the time but would like to do better, and would certainly enjoy the game with a more reliable GIB as far as carding is concerned.

Gib doesn't play any defensive signals at all. The bbo convention card page is just wrong. Also, gib doesn't assume its partner gives any defensive signals.
Actually the key to the success of on line gambling bridge of gib is to improve its bidding and defense IMO. For declaring, it's very trivia, the web site should give the option to allow human player to declare when in dummy, which makes a lot of sense, but you are the one who is responsible with your money on the table, not programmer's silly mistakes that blew tricks after tricks in some very simple situations. In that sense, really, to improve gib, only defensive signals, realistic assumptions based on partner's early defensive carding and bidding are the keys.
For now, gib just plays the highest card it doesn't think may cost a trick(this assumption is also very invalid because its simulation sample size is very small, so many rare situations can not be simulated) and often, it just pitches cards randomly.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 12:38

yep they play random signals :) funny people
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Posted 2010-September-28, 13:12

I agree 100% with allowing the human player to choose to be declarer.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 15:25

It always seems to me like it gives count signals to my opening leads. Are you sure it isn't?

But I really wish it would learn to watch my suit preference when I give it a ruff, or vice versa.

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