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#1 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2010-September-27, 18:09

Scoring: IMP

1 dbl 1 2
2 pass 2 2
pass 3 pass pass

Partner's 2 is ostensibly mildly constructive, but he's not really expecting you to bid again.

Are you tempted to double? What do you lead?
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Posted 2010-September-27, 18:59

Not tempted.

I lead the A, and if everything goes well (club, club, club ruff, heart ruff) the contract could go a couple down... but if something does not go well they might make. If declarer has the A any heart ruff we get might be a losing heart anyway, dummy quite possibly has only 2 clubs (declarer should have 5), etc.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 19:21

Always tempted, hope I'm wiser.
The plans that picture sets, wouldn't partner be doubling? He's there. He knows IMP penalties. He knows this hand has D-escape.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 19:30

Auto X at MP, I really feel +100 is likely and we really cash in when we get +300, but the extra 50 at IMPs doesn't outweigh the risk of -whatever 3X is.

On a side note, I might lead the K since if partner is void in clubs we want him/her to ruff right away and try to give us 2 heart ruffs (and he/she would bid this way with KQJxxx in hearts and a stiff club), which is more likely to happen if we lead the K than the A. The 8 should suffice as suit preference for hearts at trick 2 if partner can't ruff, so this also doesn't cost if clubs are 5-5-2-1 around the table.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2010-September-27, 20:53

Can I also just add that I'm sorta confused with partner's shape? They have to be something like 3730 or 3721, since I feel like with 6 hearts and 3 diamonds they would raise diamonds instead at imps. I guess sometimes partner has 4 spades and the doubler didn't get the joke with the 2 competition, and partner didn't want to X either cause his/her spades are lousy or for fear of them "finding their club fit"
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2010-September-28, 12:10

I think this could be a bloodbath. I'll double.

Partner does not know about these clubs, so how can he double?
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Posted 2010-September-28, 12:58

I hate these club leads. My view on how this defense should go is to take it slow and score your clubs/diamonds/hearts later when they have no trumps. I would lead the SJ.

Also of course I would not double, dummy could easily have 5 spades and they might make pretty easily.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 13:57

Double is too much. Opponents can easily have lots of spades between them.

But lead is easy. We have all side suits locked. Trump lead is clear.
 
 
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Posted 2010-September-29, 01:04

I wouldn't Dbl at imps, perhaps in MP if I need some points. Imo a lead is pretty obvious, since every other suit will split badly for them.
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Posted 2010-September-29, 02:42

I would be tempted at MP's if they were red. (I would do it.)

At IMP's I wouldn't double even if one of my opponents were Ole Berg.
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Posted 2010-September-29, 10:30

Just lead a spade. If they go down, we're gonna have a good score anyway.
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