[gwnn]

jillybean, on Sep 12 2010, 03:57 PM, said:

gwnn, on Sep 12 2010, 08:52 AM, said:

BTW it's nice to be able to bid 2♦ natural 6-9. You should think of keeping it that way (and me too).

If you do use 2♦ as natural does 3♦ become your gf raise?

there's a bunch of structures out there like 3♣ 10+ with diamonds or some tweaking in the 2M responses. I have never played any of them but I have sometimes wished I'd play 1D-p-2D as natural.

[bucky]

jillybean, on Sep 12 2010, 07:27 AM, said:

1eyedjack, on Sep 12 2010, 03:18 AM, said:

3D is a bid which on another day could work very well.  He just has to accept that this was not one of them.

I don't understand this, it sounds like you are suggesing 3♦ was indeed a good bid with this hand.

In an attempt to understand this, may I ask what is your definition for 3♦ bid? If it is defined as mixed raise, then this hand is not far from it. It lacks the 5th diamond, but it also put pressure on the opponents. Very often partner has 4th diamond, and opponents have fit in a major, then even 3♦ down 1 or 2 can be a good result.

[jillybean]

vuroth, on Sep 15 2010, 12:27 PM, said:

Bleh I wouldn't go dropping InvMinor over this hand alone. Esp if you play SAYC, as forcing with support for a minor can be messy.

How do you make a forcing minor raise playing 2/1?

[bucky]

jillybean, on Sep 15 2010, 05:54 PM, said:

vuroth, on Sep 15 2010, 12:27 PM, said:

Bleh I wouldn't go dropping InvMinor over this hand alone.  Esp if you play SAYC, as forcing with support for a minor can be messy.

How do you make a forcing minor raise playing 2/1?

Same. You either play invm or you don't. Whether you play 2/1 or sayc has nothing to do with your choice.

[fingolfin3]

I've had a bad habit of bidding 3♦ with hands like North's. I need to get out of it. That said, with a side singleton I think it's the right bid.

I am strongly of the opinion that one shouldn't worry about getting a bad result because a 1♦ opener was only 3 cards. The chances of 1♦ being exactly 4-4-3-2 are about the same as running into a 5-0 trump split. As you would with the latter, just chalk it up to bad luck and move on.