-factor notation revolutionary?
#1
Posted 2010-September-08, 05:07
Suppose you hold
AK7654
AJ6
A2
QJ
Of course in most discussions the spots cards are not relevant, so we use a quicker, but equally long notation. I propose that we use numbers to indicate the number of spotcards. In the new notation, the above hand would be written as:
AK4
AJ1
A1
QJ0
Much shorter! Not only that, it also helps to save the environment when printing and it is more intuitive. Here are some more eamples:
We'll write QJ97 or QJ8 for QJ98765432.
We'll write A23 for A8652.
A100 for A10 tight.
To make the notation etra short, we can often leave off the number of spotcards of the longest suit without creating confusion. For example, when we write AJ2 Q J2 1, it is clear that we hold 4-5-3-1 shape, just as when we would say "ace-king and two small, hearts headed by the queen, jack and two diamonds and a small club" in casual conversation.
I propose that, unless we want to give the spotcards eplicitly, we all use the new "-factor notation".
#2
Posted 2010-September-08, 05:28
hanp, on Sep 8 2010, 06:07 AM, said:
I love the idea. While this suggestion destroys the brevity of the system, why not put the length in parentheses to avoid ambiguity with spots altogether? You could even omit the (0).
Would AK(4) AJ(1) A(1) QJ look that unwieldy?
#3
Posted 2010-September-08, 05:45
George Carlin
#4
Posted 2010-September-08, 05:56
IdiotVig, on Sep 8 2010, 06:28 AM, said:
hanp, on Sep 8 2010, 06:07 AM, said:
I love the idea. While this suggestion destroys the brevity of the system, why not put the length in parentheses to avoid ambiguity with spots altogether? You could even omit the (0).
Would AK(4) AJ(1) A(1) QJ look that unwieldy?
The idea of the notation is to make it shorter, not etra long.
#5
Posted 2010-September-08, 05:56
Btw, by starting a forum discussion like this, the environment will get damaged so severely that even using the suggested notation can never restore it. You should be ashamed!
#6
Posted 2010-September-08, 06:13
George Carlin
#7
Posted 2010-September-08, 06:38
#8
Posted 2010-September-08, 06:48
hanp, on Sep 8 2010, 12:07 PM, said:
AT
London UK
#9
Posted 2010-September-08, 07:16
gwnn, on Sep 8 2010, 01:13 PM, said:
Only on Windows. Maybe BBO would consider switching to a Unix server, so that if anyone does wastefully use a newline the damage will be reduced by 50%?
#10
Posted 2010-September-08, 07:22
hanp, on Sep 8 2010, 06:07 AM, said:
AK7654
AJ6
A2
QJ
Of course in most discussions the spots cards are not relevant, so we use a quicker, but equally long notation. I propose that we use numbers to indicate the number of spotcards. In the new notation, the above hand would be written as:
AK4
AJ1
A1
QJ0
How about:
AK6
AJ3
A2
QJ2
Would it hurt the environment if extra spaces are added:
AK 6
AJ 3
A 2
QJ 2
#11
Posted 2010-September-08, 07:28
gwnn, on Sep 8 2010, 06:45 AM, said:
FYP
But Csaba may be right. You could one-line the whole thing. Zero is necessary to denote the start of a new suit after some honor sequence, and v or a space could designate a void.
e.g. AK0Q0 10 for a five club preempt
#12
Posted 2010-September-08, 07:43
TimG, on Sep 8 2010, 02:22 PM, said:
AK6
AJ3
A2
QJ2
That would wastefully use an extra character whenever you have a 10-card suit.
#13
Posted 2010-September-08, 08:20
#14
Posted 2010-September-08, 08:33
hanp, on Sep 8 2010, 03:20 PM, said:
You can also just use the T for 10, and use a point as a seperator between suits. That way, if you print it, it saves ink. And if you use Arial or something similar, then you can even put more hands on 1 piece of paper!
The suggestion to use winzip clearly shows some have no idea how winzip works. Please try to compress a file of 11 bytes, let me know the compression rate. You probably expand your file at least 10 times...
#15
Posted 2010-September-08, 09:25
IdiotVig, on Sep 8 2010, 06:28 AM, said:
hanp, on Sep 8 2010, 06:07 AM, said:
I love the idea. While this suggestion destroys the brevity of the system, why not put the length in parentheses to avoid ambiguity with spots altogether? You could even omit the (0).
Would AK(4) AJ(1) A(1) QJ look that unwieldy?
use the one that is shorter to minimize keystrokes
AK(4) AJ(1) A(1) QJ
AKxxxx AJx Ax QJ
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
#16
Posted 2010-September-08, 09:28
#17
Posted 2010-September-08, 09:43
How about AK4 for AK4 and 4AK for AKxxxx...
But then 4AK 3Q 1 2 is sort of hard to read.
#18
Posted 2010-September-08, 09:50
A3
QJ5
Has become much trickier.
#19
Posted 2010-September-08, 10:02
Actually, now that I think about it more, maybe it's even better to write AK-seventh? Then it's really impossible to mistake it for s.th. else.
#20
Posted 2010-September-08, 10:08
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