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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2010-August-25, 23:18

Scoring: IMP

(1)-P-(P)-1,
(2)-?


cue-bid? Splinter? NT? gentle raises? Just bid game?
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Posted 2010-August-25, 23:24

I'd just bid game.
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Posted 2010-August-25, 23:31

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Posted 2010-August-25, 23:58

The problem with bidding game is that we can easily have a slam imo.
I bid 4 if that's splinter. If not then I cuebid and then bid game.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 01:22

I'd probably bid 2NT as INV+ raise with 4+. Depending on what happens we may or may not find slam, but I'm going to at least 4 all the time for sure.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 03:17

With a regular partner, I would bid 2NT as a good raise in spades.

In other cases, I'd just try 4
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Posted 2010-August-26, 09:03

Yeh, someone has hearts. It seems likely that ten of them are divided equally between lefty and pard. Some people, if they use Michaels at all in the balancing seat, play it showing a good hand.

After subtracting to compensate for balancer's expected overbid, I choose a 2 cue L.R. +, and then abide by pard's decision whether to accept. With what looks like a nice 11+, balancer will accept. If balancer bids 2H in response to the cue, I will bid 3C to torture him some more ---this is not a slam auction. Partner would now have had enough chances to show a big hand.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 10:02

I would bid 2 and consider this a non-problem.

3 should be fitted, but that's not very likely since we didn't overcall, unless you make fit bids on four card suits. 4 would normally be to play, but that doesn't make much sense either in this context. Partner is probably looking at a few hearts himself, and can probably work it out, but why give him the headache?

So I will bid 3 in the post-mortem, but settle for 2 now.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 10:03

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Yeh, someone has hearts. It seems likely that ten of them are divided equally between lefty and pard. Some people, if they use Michaels at all in the balancing seat, play it showing a good hand.

I was thinking that probably west has 5-6 hearts, but a hand too weak to bid. But your idea is also possible.

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After subtracting to compensate for balancer's expected overbid, I choose a 2♦ cue L.R. +, and then abide by pard's decision whether to accept. With what looks like a nice 11+, balancer will accept. If balancer bids 2H in response to the cue, I will bid 3C to torture him some more ---this is not a slam auction. Partner would now have had enough chances to show a big hand.

I think most likely east has the strong hand, per above. Against that though, my honors look perfectly placed. Even opposite an ordinary balancing 10 count, we could easily be losing only a club, a heart, and a trump. So I take the plunge and bid game. (Certainly at IMPs. At matchpoints I might be persuaded to try the cuebid).
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Posted 2010-August-26, 10:37

3.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 10:46

hanp, on Aug 26 2010, 11:37 AM, said:

3.

I play the higher cue (3) as the mixed raise, and the lower cue (2) as limit (+).

Surprised you don't.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 11:29

Phil, on Aug 26 2010, 05:46 PM, said:

hanp, on Aug 26 2010, 11:37 AM, said:

3.

I play the higher cue (3) as the mixed raise, and the lower cue (2) as limit (+).

Surprised you don't.

Maybe Han plays the higest cue as the mixed raise, the middle one as a limit raise with four trumps, and the lowest one as a limit raise with three trumps.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-August-26, 11:37

Agree to 4. It is important to shut out the heart suit, which LHO might be aching to bid, especially if he's not playing weak jump shifts <_<
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Posted 2010-August-26, 12:39

Phil, on Aug 26 2010, 11:46 AM, said:

hanp, on Aug 26 2010, 11:37 AM, said:

3.

I play the higher cue (3) as the mixed raise, and the lower cue (2) as limit (+).

Surprised you don't.

But what about when there are three!
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Posted 2010-August-26, 12:41

CSGibson, on Aug 26 2010, 12:18 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

(1)-P-(P)-1,
(2)-?


cue-bid? Splinter? NT? gentle raises? Just bid game?

4h splinter.
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