[bluecalm]

I think passing 3♥ is terrible as partner is supposed to be 6-5 for his jump to 3♥ playing precision.
I mean what kind of hand jumps to 3♥ if partner passes 1♠ ? Not being 6-5 there seems like judgment blunder to me.

This is assuming they open 1♥ with 6♥-5♠ and decent hand.

[Phil]

bluecalm, on Aug 1 2010, 01:37 PM, said:

I think passing 3♥ is terrible as partner is supposed to be 6-5 for his jump to 3♥ playing precision.
I mean what kind of hand jumps to 3♥ if partner passes 1♠ ? Not being 6-5 there seems like judgment blunder to me.

This is assuming they open 1♥ with 6♥-5♠ and decent hand.

I think you are missing the point of passing.

The argument for passing is that we are quite possibly in hot water, and 3♠ has to get by two opponents, and 3♥ only has to get by one. If 3♥ is x'd, we can run to 3♠. Furthermore, even a mild preference may get boosted to game if partner has some extreme shape, although with a 6-6 or something pard might have bid 4♥, not 3.

Partner will be 6-5 a lot, but you really can't call 3♥ with Sontag's 5-5 a misbid. Double and then hearts might be better, to convey a maximum (many would open 1♣, even with a little less). I also think the spade spots are pretty lousy for 3♥, but he was hoping for some hearts, and short spades I'm sure.

[jdonn]

Phil, on Aug 1 2010, 03:10 PM, said:

Partner will be 6-5 a lot, but you really can't call 3♥ with Sontag's 5-5 a misbid. Double and then hearts might be better, to convey a maximum (many would open 1♣, even with a little less). I also think the spade spots are pretty lousy for 3♥, but he was hoping for some hearts, and short spades I'm sure.

Agree about 3♥ but you might call 1♠ a misbid!

[cherdanno]

Very nice, congrats!

[Hanoi5]

Congrats to Fred and co. I was watching the second match where Fred made 4♥x, great play by Fred and also great by his teammates not doubling and defeating.

I also thought they were gonna win easily, I'll have to watch the come-back of the third quarter.

[bluecalm]

Now I am rooting for Diamond to qualify for BB. Nickell team seems like they are out of shape recently so there definitely is a chance. Go Fred and rest

[rogerclee]

Maybe 3Sx-3 was more exciting, but I thought Fred's play in 3D-1 was very strong and imaginative, and certainly there were no more than a handful of declarers in the Spingold capable of it, let alone actually finding it at the table. Congratulations Fred, very well played.

[3for3]

The diagram needs to be ammended to give North 4-5 in the minors.

Way to go, team Diamond!

[barmar]

I'll bet Fred remembers all the spots, maybe he can give us the exact hand instead of my poor recollection.

[nigel_k]

Congrats etc.

I wonder why Fred thought he needed a swing? I thought they had a decent set at his table. You wouldn't expect to lose often on the hand where slam made off two key cards, and they were in fact ahead apart from that hand.

[y66]

That was exciting. Very happy for you and your team mates Fred.

[cherdanno]

rogerclee, on Aug 1 2010, 04:41 PM, said:

Maybe 3Sx-3 was more exciting, but I thought Fred's play in 3D-1 was very strong and imaginative, and certainly there were no more than a handful of declarers in the Spingold capable of it, let alone actually finding it at the table. Congratulations Fred, very well played.

For those who wondered like me: the hand is on page 2 of the Daily Bulletin no. 10:
http://www.acbl.org/...ins/2010/02/10/
Beautiful!

[MBV53]

Congratulations Diamond Team members for winning Spingold 2010.What a nail biting finish! Board 63 changed the fortunes! Exellent live coverage by BBO. Thanks to the telecast team. FRED! keep winning! make it a Habit!
we are very happy,our BBO Founder won one of the prestigious Event!

MBVSubrahmanyam.
Chief director,India.

[jkdood]

[quote name='Phil' date='Aug 1 2010, 01:16 PM'] [/QUOTE]
Making 3 ...- the solution is very counter-intuitive. Its almost impossible to see the winning line even looking at all four hands at T5. None of the commentators spotted it, except Cohen (I think) who said "GIB thinks that 3[sp] can be made at this point" (after Fred played a high club). [/quote]
Can anyone run GIB or otherwise ascertain the winning line for a make at T5, after A of C is played, please? I don't see it.

And yes, North is 2-2-4-5, not as as shown. xx xx QJxx Qxxxx (no T of C.)

[bb79]

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Can anyone run GIB or otherwise ascertain the winning line for a make at T5, after A of C is played, please?  I don't see it.

And yes, North is 2-2-4-5, not as as shown.  xx  xx  QJxx Qxxxx  (no T of C.)

ruff ♣, ♥A, ruff a ♥, ruff a ♣ with ♠J, ♠A, play ♥ .. west has to lead away from ♦K

[jkdood]

wow. TY. I also saw Barry Goren posted the same answer at bridgewinners. thanks.

[neilkaz]

Well done, Fred and team and worth losing sleep staying up late to watch the exciting come back !

[Walddk]

Better late than never. Congrats!

[JLOGIC]

That 3D-1 is pretty sick

[pigpenz]

Just got done watching the hand and using GIB option for each play....in the Middle of the hand when Fred played the King of clubs the hand could have been made.


Poor Sontag he had ran a beautiful criss cross squeeze earlier and then missed this.