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Posted 2010-July-29, 07:14

prior to the opening lead Dummy jokingly says with anybody else for a partner I would have passed


You are playing a 56 board team match, in second seat for this hand and hear the following incredibly complex auction. The opponents are playing 2/1.

West North East South
-      P       P     2NT
P     3NT all pass

Bless his heart, partner finds the killing opening lead of the ♠5 (sarcasm/off ). Declarer wins the first trick with ♠J and plays the ♣Q; partner playing the ♣6 and dummy plays the ♣8. Do you win this trick and how do you continue? Okay,okay I didn't really think you were that stupid :) Declarer continues with the ♣ J and after partner discards a small ♦ dummy plays the ♣9. How do you defend?

EDIT: Carding is standard
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Posted 2010-July-29, 07:18

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Posted 2010-July-29, 08:24

Declarer gets 3 ♣ tricks either way, so I don't see a reason not to take.

I can't envision us getting 5 tricks without a diamond trick, so I'll return the Q♦.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2010-July-29, 08:28

Why did I sit down to play a 56 board match without discussing carding methods?
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Posted 2010-July-29, 08:31

carding?
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Posted 2010-July-29, 08:32

Edited, noticed this is B/I forum.
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Posted 2010-July-29, 08:57

cherdanno, on Jul 29 2010, 09:28 AM, said:

Why did I sit down to play a 56 board match without discussing carding methods?

carding is standard
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

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Posted 2010-July-29, 08:58

jillybean, on Jul 29 2010, 09:31 AM, said:

carding?

carding is standard
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-July-29, 09:06

is there an echo in here?

in here?

in here?
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2010-July-29, 09:22

bid_em_up, on Jul 29 2010, 10:06 AM, said:

is there an echo in here?

in here?

in here?

yes it is the high canyon walls here in New Orleans!! WAIT! That is water!!! glub glub glub
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Posted 2010-July-29, 09:50

♣K and ♣x
Now declarer must take his third club or kiss it goodbye.
When partner get's one trick, (♥K/Q or ♠K) I'll make the other 4.
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Posted 2010-July-29, 09:58

I duck the 2nd club as well.
Now if declarer leads clubs a 3rd time, the club suit is established for me to get a 2nd club trick.

I dont know what to lead, either a heart or diamond, so I'm happy to let declarer stay on lead. His main problem is inability to take finesses. he gets only 1 from clubs.
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Posted 2010-July-30, 06:44

dicklont, on Jul 29 2010, 10:50 AM, said:

♣K and ♣x
Now declarer must take his third club or kiss it goodbye.
When partner get's one trick, (♥K/Q or ♠K) I'll make the other 4.

This was an effective defense at the table as well and IMO the correct defense although the path to 5 tricks is still unclear.
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

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