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#1 User is offline   Allegro 

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Posted 2004-August-07, 22:46

I am an advanced bridge player who often cannot find good partners on BBO because I don't play 2/1. I would like to learn it, but can't find an explanation of how it works and all of what's included. I already play SAYC Full, Inverted minors, NMF, 4th SF, Capp, RKC, etc. I'd like to study 2/1 by myself and then ask for help when I need it, but I would like to find some sort of directory on the Internet to get me started.

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Posted 2004-August-07, 23:28

Get Marty Bergens book, 1nt forcing thats a good start and I think Mike Lawrences 2/1 workbook is good, I am getting that myself this week.

try these

http://www.annam.co.uk/2-1.html

http://www.prairienet.org/bridge/

http://www.firesides.net/spectrm3.htm

There are some bits in BBO library I believe, have a look in there and I am sure some more people will help you on this post :)
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Posted 2004-August-08, 03:26

Get Mike Lawrence's bidding quizes on the uncontested auction and the contested auction.

Be aware, though, that most players use a lot of gadgets that Lawrence doesn't use. In particular, Lawrence plays 1M-2NT natural, which means that 1M-2m has a different meaning than in Hardy's method because it denies a hand suitable for a 2NT bid. I'm not sure if it makes sense to agree with a casual partner to play "2/1". What exactly does that mean?
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Posted 2004-August-08, 04:39

Allegro, on Aug 8 2004, 05:46 PM, said:

I am an advanced bridge player who often cannot find good partners on BBO because I don't play 2/1. I would like to learn it, but can't find an explanation of how it works and all of what's included. I already play SAYC Full, Inverted minors, NMF, 4th SF, Capp, RKC, etc. I'd like to study 2/1 by myself and then ask for help when I need it, but I would like to find some sort of directory on the Internet to get me started.

Thanks.

WOW UNFORTUNATELY "sayc" is a RIGIDLY proscribed system with FEW conventions allowed ( IN Regionals in USA I have actually seen a YELLOW ( actually printed on YELLOW paper) card which has convention allowed on it :) -- BTW SATC (stands for 'Standard American Yellow Card BUT I think what you really mean is "Standard American" with MOST bells and whistles --- in which case I bellieve you are ¾of the way to being able to play 2/1 --- the books recommended will surely help you :D
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Posted 2004-August-08, 06:27

1) Log onto the BBO gaming site.

2) Click on shop birdge

3) Click on English

4) Click on Our authors

5) Click on Mike Lawrenece

6) Order the two over one syteme CD (make sure you have 34.95 in your BBO$ account

Or you can go to bridgebase.com and order it from there. Having Mike Lawerence as your partner/teacher will make up for the lack of good one otherwisee.

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Posted 2004-August-08, 11:28

Yeah, definitely buy the Mike Lawrence CD from Bridge Base. It is the equivalent of about a 1,000 page book - clear, extensive with lots of quizzes.
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Posted 2004-August-08, 14:30

You can't use bbo dollars to buy books and cds unless there has been a change in the last few days. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2004-August-08, 14:44

I found free lessons for 2/1 once, which were very clear imo. You have to give your email address, and you'll get them emailed to you. Another positive point is that you don't get spam from them afterwards :rolleyes:

You should take a look at:
http://www.firesides.net/lessons.htm

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Posted 2004-August-09, 00:17

Its sounds like adjusting from what you already play to playing 2/1 is not a huge transition - i.e. adding forcing 1nt and adding 2/1 as either 100% game forcing or forcing until rebid of responders suit.

2/1 is actually a catch cry for some variance in methods - and a lot of style questions / variations need to be discussed. And to play 2/1 well IMO there's a lot of 'system' that needs to be added to some sequences...

In terms of useful articles available on the Internet

1. Really basic introduction articles.

There's a set of four really basic ones by Fred Gitelman available from:
http://classic.zone....geclub/tips.asp (you need a Microsoft passport to access this page I think)

2. Well written overviews of 2/1 in more detail can be found at:
http://www.worldwidefolks.com/ and
http://www.prairiene...idge/2over1.htm

3. A (much) more detailed documented 2/1 type system can be found on Daniel Niell's system page
http://www.geocities...neill_2000/sys/
Scroll down until you find supernatural (the old version - not the 'next version')
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Posted 2004-August-10, 19:18

Thanks so much for all the thoughtful replies. I have printed out some of the suggested material and can begin the learning process.
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Posted 2004-August-11, 09:56

You can join many places on BBO to learn 2/1.
Fifth Chair would be a good start.

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