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Lance Armstrong

Poll: Do you think Lance Armstrong systematically used illegal doping for many years? (41 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you think Lance Armstrong systematically used illegal doping for many years?

  1. Yes (25 votes [60.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.98%

  2. No (10 votes [24.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.39%

  3. Is he playing for Spain or the Netherlands? (6 votes [14.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.63%

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#21 User is offline   cherdanno 

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Posted 2010-July-08, 19:08

Lobowolf, on Jul 8 2010, 12:13 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Jul 8 2010, 11:10 AM, said:

mike777, on Jul 8 2010, 06:31 PM, said:

This type of topic comes up all the time.

I dont get what is so wrong with taking chemicals to improve.

I think people forget, foods are just chemicals...water is just chemical.

If the stuff is bad or does not work than that is an argument for better chemicals not zero.



Question 2: Do you know what the expression "prisoner's dilemma " refers to?

Question 3: Do you understand how "prisoner's dilemma" applies to doping?

Mike, don't answer those!

What are you worried about? Have you ever seen Mike answering a question?
Or did you mean "don't post a reply to this"?
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Posted 2010-July-08, 19:28

With regards to EPO, all I can say is this Chinese saying, which is loosely translated literally as: The righteous get higher by a foot, but evil gets higher by a metre.

I have read (as pointed out above) about EPO being almost impossible to detect if used in the "right" way but then again I have also read some other evidence explaining why Armstrong outperforms. It is quite possible that we will never know unless someone helping him outs him or he confesses himself (if he is indeed guilty!).
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Posted 2010-July-09, 00:32

Hanoi5, on Jul 9 2010, 12:21 AM, said:

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I stopped watching cycling after I realized how much doping is involved and that "our" heros (Ulrich and Zabel) doped.


But how did you realize that!? So, do some bridge players get Ritalin prescriptions from their shrinks in order to fare better? Or is it worse than that?

Re Ulrich:
If it smells like a cat, looks like a cat and act like a cat, it is a cat.

Re Zabel: He confirmed it himself.

And if Bridge players use illegeal drugs, they should be banned- for years. What is your point?
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Posted 2010-July-09, 03:15

Hanoi5, on Jul 8 2010, 04:09 PM, said:

I don't know much about the subject but if it is true then cycling as a sport is a joke.

If thats your criterion than every sport is a joke.
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Posted 2010-July-09, 08:19

kfay, on Jul 8 2010, 10:14 AM, said:

Aberlour10, on Jul 8 2010, 10:04 AM, said:

Most of the top profs were dopped. How could Lance beat them all in the french mountains so many times if he would be clean?. Such natural supermen are possible, but only in Hollywood movies, not in the real life.

This is obvious

another one then:

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...7&hl=usain+bolt
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Posted 2010-July-09, 09:38

Wow I never knew it was so "clear" that Lance was a doper. This has changed my outlook on life. :(
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Posted 2010-July-11, 06:09

cherdanno, on Jul 8 2010, 08:08 PM, said:

Lobowolf, on Jul 8 2010, 12:13 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Jul 8 2010, 11:10 AM, said:

mike777, on Jul 8 2010, 06:31 PM, said:

This type of topic comes up all the time.

I dont get what is so wrong with taking chemicals to improve.

I think people forget, foods are just chemicals...water is just chemical.

If the stuff is bad or does not work than that is an argument for better chemicals not zero.



Question 2: Do you know what the expression "prisoner's dilemma " refers to?

Question 3: Do you understand how "prisoner's dilemma" applies to doping?

Mike, don't answer those!

What are you worried about? Have you ever seen Mike answering a question?
Or did you mean "don't post a reply to this"?

Canid humor (playful irony) obviously.
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Posted 2010-July-11, 07:36

I prefer an athlete who may have doped to one who is a dope.
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Posted 2010-July-12, 23:06

I very much doubt that there would be a single rider in the Tour de France not taking some sort of performance enhancing substance. How else are they able to ride their bikes up and down mountains for six hours a day for three weeks? These are all carefully managed professional teams which know every trick in the book to avoid getting caught and push the limits of the banned substances rules and testing regimes.
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Posted 2010-July-13, 09:48

mrdct, on Jul 13 2010, 07:06 AM, said:

How else are they able to ride their bikes up and down mountains for six hours a day for three weeks?

They pumped the tubes harder. They have said so themselves.
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