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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2010-July-06, 04:04

I had no clue how to evaluate any of 4 the suits in play, all seemed a bit offensive, and a bit deffensive as well, all the 4 partially better given the bidding, but not necesarilly.


9xxx
Kxx
Qx
Kxxx

We are vulnerable, partner deals.

1-2-2-X
3-4
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Posted 2010-July-06, 04:14

Scoring?
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Posted 2010-July-06, 04:32

Patton (IMPs+BAM)
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Posted 2010-July-06, 07:11

Fluffy, on Jul 6 2010, 05:04 AM, said:

I had no clue how to evaluate any of 4 the suits in play, all seemed a bit offensive, and a bit deffensive as well, all the 4 partially better given the bidding, but not necesarilly.


9xxx
Kxx
Qx
Kxxx

We are vulnerable, partner deals.

1-2-2-X
3-4

well one thing is clear you have useful honors in all suits where partner rates to hold 3 as it appears that he has a singleton or void in
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Posted 2010-July-06, 07:14

partner is the man who opened 1S and bid 3D
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Posted 2010-July-06, 07:56

I think I pass this, the hand seems average to me, no clear preference, so partner can pick 4, 4X or 4

give me one spade less and one card elswhere more I double
give me K and Q I think I bid 4
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Posted 2010-July-06, 08:05

Fluffy, on Jul 6 2010, 08:14 AM, said:

partner is the man who opened 1S and bid 3D

well then the Q is a useful card and both your kings look to be well placed so 4 ADDENDUM and the 4th doesn't hurt either
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Posted 2010-July-06, 08:23

4
OK
bed
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Posted 2010-July-06, 08:31

Fluffy, on Jul 6 2010, 10:32 AM, said:

Patton (IMPs+BAM)

I'll just bid 4 then. I think there is a good chance Leftie bids 5 and we get rich. I'm not going to aim for both 4M contracts going down at IMP or partial IMP but maybe at pairs that's best....
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Posted 2010-July-06, 09:14

I'd bid 4 too, though I doubt LHO is saving.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 09:28

4
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 09:40

I have a solitary queen in the two suits bid by partner. That doesn't doesn't seem very offensive.

I also have the king of a suit bid on my right, and where parter is likely to be short. That seems quite defensive.

Finally, I have the king of a suit where partner probably has two or three cards. That seems more defensive than not.

The only thing that suggests bidding is the extra trump. That's counterbalanced by the relative shortage in partner's second suit.

I'd double. (Edit: or maybe pass is right. BUt I'm not bidding 4.)
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Posted 2010-July-06, 09:53

Partner has suggested 4S and we have a fourth spade. I think that's huge. Our honors aren't great but they could be worse. I'm bidding 4S.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 10:41

If we're in a force I want to pass. If not I'll bid 4 only because of the vulnerability and I think they'll save a lot with their spade shortness. It's sort of tactical though since at any other vul I'd double, we have the king of hearts and diamond shortness.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 10:58

Double and lead the Q.

The 4th spade is nice for spades but the off-suit kings and diamond shortness point to defending.

edit: I've never played in a Patton event, but double looks 100% clear at BAM, and only so-so at IMPs.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 12:53

What is the 3 bid? I assumed something like a help-suit try. Is it a real side-suit in this auction?
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Posted 2010-July-06, 15:44

Just because I am trying 2 part questions here is your problem this time


Scoring: XIMP

1-2-2-X
3-4-4-X
ps-ps-ps



you lead your singleton diamond, on wich partner wins K and next plays A, declarer playing 2 and 3, what card do you play at trick 2? (UDCA)
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Posted 2010-July-07, 03:00

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Posted 2010-July-08, 04:43

congrats, ruff was the only answer



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Posted 2010-July-08, 04:58

I join the 4 camp. I have the K, the doubleton Q and 4 trumps, what else do I need!?

Edit: I gotta start checking the whole topic before answering. I think partner's bidding is flawed, either he has to pass the X, bid 3, open 1, or not open at all. It's also my fault for not having an ace...

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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