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Poll: tweener (19 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. 2 clubs (5 votes [26.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

  2. 2 spades (6 votes [31.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.58%

  3. 3 clubs (8 votes [42.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.11%

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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2010-June-28, 22:24

MPs, KQx KTx x AK8xxx

1♣ - 1♠;
?
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Posted 2010-June-28, 22:31

none of the above. 2H for me.
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Posted 2010-June-28, 22:46

Yeah agree with 2H.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 00:35

3♣ showing six clubs and three spades.

I dislike a style where 2♥ can show this hand. Even if you can get back to 4♠ when partner strongly raises hearts you must lose out somewhere - when you want to cue bid spades for example.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 00:51

Cascade, on Jun 29 2010, 01:35 AM, said:

3♣ showing six clubs and three spades.

I dislike a style where 2♥ can show this hand.  Even if you can get back to 4♠ when partner strongly raises hearts you must lose out somewhere - when you want to cue bid spades for example.

If 3♣ shows 3 spades on the side you have to put 3♣ rebids without 3 spades in some other bid, thus losing something on that bid. What's the difference? To me it's all just what people are comfortable with.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 02:15

3C for me; I know I was convinced by jdonn last time this came up that 3C is inferior but I have forgot in the meantime. I hope I remember to reverse next time.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 06:56

Phil, on Jun 28 2010, 11:24 PM, said:

MPs, KQx KTx x AK8xxx

1♣ - 1♠;
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you need a call that will encourage partner to try for game with a marginal hand and IMO 2♠ is your best shot
2♠>3♣>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2♣
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Posted 2010-June-29, 06:58

I would also bid 2H, second choice 3C. Of course if I had a bid that shows this hand, I would choose that bid.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 08:35

If you had a bid that SHOWED this hand it wouldn't be a problem would it?

I assume the 2♥ bidders are bidding a quiet 3♣ over 2N?
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Posted 2010-June-29, 08:36

What's so quiet about it? partner denied 5 spades and we promised reverse values.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 09:08

Phil, on Jun 29 2010, 09:35 AM, said:

If you had a bid that SHOWED this hand it wouldn't be a problem would it?

I absolutely agree with you.

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I assume the 2♥ bidders are bidding a quiet 3♣ over 2N?


Definitely.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 09:25

I'd bid 2♣ given that partner's 1♠ shows diamonds, ain't that an option also?.


Seriously, I'd bid 2♣
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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:40

I voted 3C, but would at least seriously consider 2H at the table.

I would not remotely seriously consider 2S (WAY too strong for a simple raise) or 2C. I do wish I had a better way to show this type of hand.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:42

I (obviously) had not considered 2♥, but I think I like it. It seems to be a good solution for the 3316/3136 variety of the death hand.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:47

I'm gonna turn into Roth and say that if partner doesn't have a re-bid over 2♣ that might be our best contract.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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