[Fluffy]

♠K98763
♥KJ10975
♦3
♣-


opps vul


1♠-2NT-ps-??

[gwnn]

yep, sounds best to me. you wouldn't happen to play 3♥ as natural would you?

[mcphee]

I just do not pass in these positions. I have a preference so I take it and I am comfortable with 3D. I just do not believe I was asked to make any decision, I was asked to choose a minor. Damn lucky we are not void in both making preference far more difficult

[Fluffy]

gwnn, on Jun 27 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

yep, sounds best to me. you wouldn't happen to play 3♥ as natural would you?

yes 3♥ is natural, no special agreements, natural not sure if forcing or not.

[helene_t]

gwnn, on Jun 27 2010, 02:05 PM, said:

yep, sounds best to me. you wouldn't happen to play 3♥ as natural would you?

This hand is probably to weak for that anyway. We could be lucky that p raises hearts but if he doesn't we have a problem.

I pass, too bad if p has enough to make 4♥ or 5♦, and LHO doesn't reopen.

[jdonn]

3♥ is natural but forcing (I think?) But I'll bid 3♦ since if they double I can run to 3♥ which is really where I'd rather play. Plus partner might have extras and we just make game.

[Codo]

Isn't passing an easy way to show the opponents our hand? If they takes you serious, what would they suspect from your pass? So we are 99 % sure that we will play in a misfit at the 3. level, doubled and down a lot if we pass now.

I guess, I try a natural 3 ♥ and hope that we have a fit or that we sound confident enough to avoid a double.

[Fluffy]

partner had

♠-
♥-
♦AJ10xxx
♣AQJ108xx

[the hog]

Fluffy, on Jun 28 2010, 04:04 PM, said:

partner had

♠-
♥-
♦AJ10xxx
♣AQJ108xx

Well, 2NT is a very odd bid. Surely 4NT expresses the hand better.

[Fluffy]

the other table bid 5NT, and played 6♦ undoubled

but again we failed to play on the suit wich breaks


3♥-X-3♠-ps
4♦-ps-5♣-X
ps-ps-ps


clubs are of course 0-6 and diamonds 3-3, 6♦ down 4 undoubled -200, 5♣X -800

[Codo]

Not to double 6 ♦ with 9 card in the minors is a big LOL.

[bid_em_up]

..

[jdonn]

Codo, on Jun 28 2010, 05:51 AM, said:

Not to double 6 ♦  with 9 card in the minors is a big LOL.

In fact they had 3 keycards and the queen of trumps, plus the king of the other minor...

[jonottawa]

I don't consider goulash hands 'interesting'. But if this were a real hand I would pass.

[aguahombre]

The_Hog, on Jun 28 2010, 04:01 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jun 28 2010, 04:04 PM, said:

partner had

♠-
♥-
♦AJ10xxx
♣AQJ108xx

Well, 2NT is a very odd bid. Surely 4NT expresses the hand better.

Yep. Even with Split range 2NT, this hand is really neither range ---nor is it an overcall-and-bid-the-other-suit hand, because you will never get the chance.

that makes 4NT about right, unless you plan to bid again after doing it.

[MFA]

jonottawa, on Jun 29 2010, 12:03 AM, said:

I don't consider goulash hands 'interesting'.  But if this were a real hand I would pass.

The deal is real. It's from the European championships. We have had a whole bunch of crazy distributions so far. 9 cards suits a number of times, extreme two-suiters, etc.

Two more from just yesterday:

♠-, ♥AK, ♦AKQTxxxxx, ♣xx
Partner opens 1♠, ty very nice.

♠-, ♥AJ98xx, ♦AKQxxx, ♣A.
Partner has ♥Kxx and ♦T9x. But of course, both diamonds and hearts are 4-0, lol.

Wonder what has happened to the card dealing program.

[Wackojack]

I saw
1S-(2NT)-p-(3H)
p -(4C)-x-(4H)
x-p-p-p
and the commentators were highly critical, particularly one compatriate of the 4H bid. Defence didnt believe declarer could have only 6 hearts so missed a spade ruff and thereafter declarer could have got off for 3 light. Nevertheless claimed for 5 light to avoid prolonged agony. LOL

[OSH]

Lauria bid 3♦, then repeated the suit two other times:
1♠-2NT-P-3♦
3♥-3♠-P-4♦
P-4♥-P-5♦

In the other room West bid 4NT and it worked better:
1♠-4NT-P-5♦
5♥-P-5♠-X
END