Lauria-Versace system Appeal for information
#1
Posted 2010-June-09, 06:24
While L-V have a natural basis, they have many non natural responses.
I'm looking for links to descriptions of any aspects of their system.
Thanks, James.
#2
Posted 2010-June-09, 14:28
Also: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files...ria-versace.pdf
These appear to be the same card.
C3: Copious Canape Club is still my favorite system. (Ultra upgraded, PM for notes)
Santa Fe Precision ♣ published 8/19. TOP3 published 11/20. Magic experiment (Science Modernized) with Lenzo. 2020: Jan Eric Larsson's Cottontail ♣. 2020. BFUN (Bridge For the UNbalanced) 2021: Weiss Simplified ♣ (Canape & Relay). 2022: Canary ♣ Modernized, 2023-4: KOK Canape.
#3
Posted 2010-June-12, 17:11
Their approach is basically natural with 2♦ opener showing 18-19 balanced (this way if you open 1 of a minor and then dbl you always has unbalanced hand, also in constructive auctions 2NT rebid is free for other things).
They open 1♦ with 4+♦ (so 1♣ is 2+). They don't play Walsh, which means they never skip ♦ suit after 1♣ opener if they don't have longer major. This way they can bid:
1♣ - 1♦
2♦ - pass
Which solves the problem of 5♣-4♦ hands (they open 1♣ and rebid 2♣ after 1M not being afraid of losing 4-4 diamond fit).
They play Gazilli in all the sequencies, ie.:
1m - 1M
2C = gazilli
1m - 1NT
2c = gazilli
1♥ - 1♠
2♣ = gazilli
I didn't quite get their scheme after that. I am sure there is a clever way to show 15-17 balanced with 5M after that but don't know how exactly they bid those hands (they NEVER open 1NT with those).
Thanks to that the jumps are intermediate so they don't have leaks of standard system.
Overall I think their system is vastly superior to all other breads of 2/1 which doesn't use 2♦ opener and Gazilli. They solved major leaks of standard thanks to those bids and have many gains in comp as well as constructive bidding thanks to their system.
#4
Posted 2010-June-13, 05:32
#5
Posted 2010-June-13, 17:06
#6
Posted 2010-June-13, 17:13
#7
Posted 2010-June-13, 17:35
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Really ? I saw like few thousands hands of them and they never passed 1NT. I doubt they would play system that bad btw.
They didn't play drury for a long time but switched recently from other interesting things.
#8
Posted 2010-June-13, 18:19
bluecalm, on Jun 13 2010, 06:35 PM, said:
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Really ? I saw like few thousands hands of them and they never passed 1NT. I doubt they would play system that bad btw.
They didn't play drury for a long time but switched recently from other interesting things.
Well you can click above on their CC and see for yourself:
Under responses to 1S:
1NT = NATURAL;
Also under subsequent auction 1S-1N-2C says it is is either weak with 4+clubs or strong any; no allowance for "prepared" response with 5332.
BTW playing heavy but NF (i.e. kind of semiF) 1N response is quite common among top level pairs especially in Europe, nothing unusual there.
#9
Posted 2010-June-13, 18:42
bluecalm, on Jun 13 2010, 07:35 PM, said:
Please see:
lauria-versace.pdf
From page 2, note 1NT NF response for 1H and 1S openings
From page 1, 1M-3♦ is a raise with any shortness
From page 2, 1M-2NT, 1♥-3♣ and 1♠-3♥ are various raises
#10
Posted 2010-June-13, 19:11
#11
Posted 2010-June-14, 00:33