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Your call? Which bid will you make

#1 User is offline   twcho 

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Posted 2010-May-30, 22:09

Scoring: XIMP

N  E  S  W
P  P  1  P
1 2 2 3
?

2 promises 4 cards support.

What action will you choose? (Double is general game try, 3 is competitive)
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Posted 2010-May-30, 22:18

I'm a good law-abiding citizen and bid 3H. Not tempted at all to look for a game, though I can imagine some minimums with singleton clubs where it could make.
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Posted 2010-May-30, 22:22

I would pass, but if partner balances 3H I'm going to bid game.
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Posted 2010-May-30, 22:52

I double as my game try. Certainly I'm going to at least compete and though I don't think game is likely to be cold it could easily be good enough. Also glad my game try is double instead of 3, it gives partner room to retry with 3 and then I'll sign off feeling I've done enough.
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Posted 2010-May-30, 23:28

This is again one auction where there is no penalty Dbl or even an Optional/values dbl available at all because by system (per OP) Dbl is a game try. I would much rather have Dbl as "balanced maximum with defense and only 4-card suit" than as a game try. As it is, what kind of hand does opener need to accept - responder knows that opener is not leaving the Dbl in [looking at our AJx in the opponent's suit and a side ace]. So the ball is back at the responder's court next round with no useful information exchanged. Perhaps I am out of touch with modern style... but given the system choices, I would rather Dbl than bid 3H. Pass is out of the question.
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Posted 2010-May-30, 23:39

I would invite, happy to have this agreement for double on this hand.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 00:30

I'd (far) rather bid 4 than bid a non-invitational 3. I think double as game try here is fine, (and be very afraid of dummy making game look ok even over 3, which I have to pass to be consistent with making only a gt)
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Posted 2010-May-31, 00:34

X GT looks ok to me.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 02:08

peachy, on May 31 2010, 06:28 AM, said:

As it is, what kind of hand does opener need to accept

A non-minimum for his actions so far. That's what "general game try" means.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-31, 02:28

X invite
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Posted 2010-May-31, 09:43

twcho, on May 30 2010, 11:09 PM, said:

Scoring: XIMP

N  E  S  W
P  P  1  P
1 2 2 3
?

2 promises 4 cards support.

What action will you choose? (Double is general game try, 3 is competitive)

not comfortable but you probably need to meckwell the hand - 4
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Posted 2010-May-31, 09:45

jdonn, on May 30 2010, 11:52 PM, said:

I double as my game try. Certainly I'm going to at least compete and though I don't think game is likely to be cold it could easily be good enough. Also glad my game try is double instead of 3, it gives partner room to retry with 3 and then I'll sign off feeling I've done enough.

I didn't read slow enough and missed this initially and probably would do this since it is an option
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