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diamond opening + club rebid in comp
#1
Posted 2010-May-27, 17:02
A lot of times if you open 1♦ and rebid 2♣ freely in comp, GIB reports it as 4+ ♣, 4+ ♦. I think there are lots of spots where free club bids should promise a fifth diamond.
E.g.:
1♦-(p)-1♥-(1♠);
dbl-(3♠)-p-(p);
4♣
is reported as 4+c, 4+d, 3h, 21-HCP, 3- card D (??) - 19-21 points.
I was 0-3-5-5, which is what I think 4♣ ought to show (maybe 0-3-6-4 is ok?),
GIB with 3433 pulled to 4♥ instead of the much better 4♦, was bailed out by opposing GIBs who competed to 4♠.
E.g.:
1♦-(p)-1♥-(1♠);
dbl-(3♠)-p-(p);
4♣
is reported as 4+c, 4+d, 3h, 21-HCP, 3- card D (??) - 19-21 points.
I was 0-3-5-5, which is what I think 4♣ ought to show (maybe 0-3-6-4 is ok?),
GIB with 3433 pulled to 4♥ instead of the much better 4♦, was bailed out by opposing GIBs who competed to 4♠.
#4
Posted 2010-May-28, 21:29
Bbradley62, on May 28 2010, 03:44 PM, said:
How should dealer bid with xx, AJx, AQJx, AQJx?
Stephen Tu, on May 28 2010, 05:00 PM, said:
double obv
OR if you play Western Cuebid like most people, cue with 3♠.
"It's not enough to win the tricks that belong to you. Try also for some that belong to the opponents."
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
#5
Posted 2010-May-28, 21:45
chasetb, on May 28 2010, 10:29 PM, said:
Bbradley62, on May 28 2010, 03:44 PM, said:
How should dealer bid with xx, AJx, AQJx, AQJx?
Stephen Tu, on May 28 2010, 05:00 PM, said:
double obv
OR if you play Western Cuebid like most people, cue with 3♠.
That's not a legal bid after opponents bid 3S. Not even Western legal.
"Are you saying that LTC merits a more respectful dismissal?"
#6
Posted 2010-May-28, 22:55
cherdanno, on May 28 2010, 10:45 PM, said:
That's not a legal bid after opponents bid 3S. Not even Western legal.
I meant instead of DBL, BEFORE the 3♠ bid, duh.
"It's not enough to win the tricks that belong to you. Try also for some that belong to the opponents."
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
#7
Posted 2010-May-29, 09:23
Chase, if you are suggesting a 3♠ jump cue over 1♠, that's not good because most good players would interpret that as a splinter raise of hearts, not a stopper ask. Most people would bid 2♠ as the stopper ask. But that's problematic also, if you are playing support doubles that denies 3 ♥ usually, partner with 5 cd hearts and a single spade stopper may put you in 3nt.
One normally makes the support double, then cue bids 2♠ over 2x with that sort of hand.
One normally makes the support double, then cue bids 2♠ over 2x with that sort of hand.
#8
Posted 2010-June-01, 03:50
chasetb, on May 28 2010, 11:55 PM, said:
cherdanno, on May 28 2010, 10:45 PM, said:
That's not a legal bid after opponents bid 3S. Not even Western legal.
I meant instead of DBL, BEFORE the 3♠ bid, duh.
GIB plays Support Doubles so 2S might (I don't know this for sure in GIB's system) deny 3-card support if you failed to use it; not sure how much it would disrupt the auction to mislead GIB in that respect. And 3S of course would be splinter.
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