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pd will bid ♦ and ♦ again if you go slowly,
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Posted 2010-May-20, 17:10
Whats the plan stan...
pd will bid ♦ and ♦ again if you go slowly,
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Posted 2010-May-20, 17:15
my plan would be to bid 2♣ and go slowly trying to find out if partner makes a forward move wich suggests he has got ♣A such as bidding 3NT on his own or something.
But since he is unable to coperate and bids 2♦ over 2♣ and 3♦ over 2♥, and opponent's ain't bidding their 9+ card fit again, this all smells that he is void or singleton in clubs.
I though I'd just blast 6♣ but upon thinking more.. if he has 4 spades and 6 diamonds 6♣ is gonna be a poor spot. I'd bid 3♥ again and if nothing good happens, bid 5♣ next and give up.
But since he is unable to coperate and bids 2♦ over 2♣ and 3♦ over 2♥, and opponent's ain't bidding their 9+ card fit again, this all smells that he is void or singleton in clubs.
I though I'd just blast 6♣ but upon thinking more.. if he has 4 spades and 6 diamonds 6♣ is gonna be a poor spot. I'd bid 3♥ again and if nothing good happens, bid 5♣ next and give up.
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Posted 2010-May-20, 21:58
6♣
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Posted 2010-May-20, 22:31
Whats the vul who are the opps etc. This is basically a poker hand and the vul is very important imo.
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Posted 2010-May-21, 01:58
probably 6♣, depends on the vulnerability.
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Posted 2010-May-21, 03:27
Pd opens 1S and you respond 6C over this? Is pd forbidden from having the A of C and the Q of hearts for his 1S opening bid? Or have the 6C bidders misread the problem and thought the opps open 1S?
I think a 2C response is obvious if you want to find out a bit more about the hand.
I think a 2C response is obvious if you want to find out a bit more about the hand.
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Posted 2010-May-21, 04:23
I don't think this is biddable with usual methods. I'll just try 2♣, probably to be followed by 6♣, just so that pard doesn't get upset at me for blasting to 6 1st round.
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Posted 2010-May-21, 05:33
Ah, I thought opps opened 1♠. If partner opened 1♠ this is LOL...
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Posted 2010-May-21, 05:57
Just do whatever you like. It's an 8-5 hand, the point of 8-5 hands is to have fun, it is difficult to make rules and systems and rational choices when it comes to them.
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Posted 2010-May-21, 08:56
gerry, on May 20 2010, 06:10 PM, said:
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Whats the plan stan...
pd will bid ♦ and ♦ again if you go slowly,
Well if partner has either the ♥Q or ♣A you rate to make 6 essentially 100% of the time depends on bringing the ♥ suit with only 1 loser max if partner has the ♣A. Since this is roughly 55% a case for a direct 6♣ exists
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Posted 2010-May-21, 09:45
Free, on May 21 2010, 05:33 AM, said:
Ah, I thought opps opened 1♠. If partner opened 1♠ this is LOL...
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Posted 2010-May-21, 09:54
2C, then alert 2D as "waiting".
This will establish that I didn't see the 1S opening bid and allow me to set clubs as trump and make asking bids. Equally effective if it was RHO who opened 1S.
This will establish that I didn't see the 1S opening bid and allow me to set clubs as trump and make asking bids. Equally effective if it was RHO who opened 1S.
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Posted 2010-May-22, 05:58
I though opponents opened sorry, if partner opens stablish clubs as trumps, ask keycards and play 7NT if he has 3.
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