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1♣ - Pass - 1♠ - dbl
2♠ - ?
1♣ may be 2;
Partner is very good player aware of vulnerability.
any action here ?
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Posted 2010-May-15, 20:35
Vul vs not. E deals.
1♣ - Pass - 1♠ - dbl
2♠ - ?
1♣ may be 2;
Partner is very good player aware of vulnerability.
1♣ - Pass - 1♠ - dbl
2♠ - ?
1♣ may be 2;
Partner is very good player aware of vulnerability.
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Posted 2010-May-15, 20:37
Pass. 3♦ could be awkward.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2010-May-15, 21:03
I choose 3D. The double is takeout, I have support for one of the two suits suggested. The fact that it might be a short club is not relevent. In addition to being aware of the vulnerability, I assume he is aware he showed the red suits.
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Posted 2010-May-15, 21:37
I will bid 3♦. We have a very nice hand in the context of the bidding. ATxx opposite shortness. Kx in partner's second suit means we can almost always set up the heart suit with at most 1 ruff.
xxx in clubs is not exactly good for us but I am bidding this one.
xxx in clubs is not exactly good for us but I am bidding this one.
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Posted 2010-May-15, 22:39
3D and this is a wtp. The vulnerability is not a factor of consideration for me.
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Posted 2010-May-15, 22:51
agree with ahung, i like our hand!
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Posted 2010-May-16, 00:29
3♦ wtp? I think I have good chances to make.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 00:47
action here
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Posted 2010-May-16, 03:50
Do people play partner's double as a takeout double of clubs and spades, or as a takeout double of spades? For example, is it consistent with a 1435 13-count?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-16, 03:51
I think this hand demonstrates one of the disadvantages of support doubles. If we didn't know that partner had a singleton spade, it would be much less attractive to bid.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-16, 04:02
gnasher, on May 16 2010, 04:50 AM, said:
Do people play partner's double as a takeout double of clubs and spades, or as a takeout double of spades? For example, is it consistent with a 1435 13-count?
In this auction, I think partner can be 1(435), with a higher likelihood of 1435 than 1345. If 1♣ showed 4+, then I would think partner would probably pass with 5♣, so X is more like 2443 or 1444 or something.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 05:45
gnasher, on May 16 2010, 09:50 AM, said:
Do people play partner's double as a takeout double of clubs and spades, or as a takeout double of spades? For example, is it consistent with a 1435 13-count?
I play take out of the black suits, 1435 is possible with enough strenght to compensate the 15 count would be a close decision.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 07:01
gnasher, on May 16 2010, 04:51 AM, said:
I think this hand demonstrates one of the disadvantages of support doubles. If we didn't know that partner had a singleton spade, it would be much less attractive to bid.
If we didn't know partner had a singleton spade, we would assume he does because that's what he usually has. Also it's obviously an advantage to the opponents in deciding whether or not to compete farther if we bid 3♦.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 09:29
Agree with Josh. If the opponents were not playing support doubles we would still bid 3D. It could be worse for us (if the opponents don't have a fit it could be wrong to compete) or it could be better (because the opponents have less information).
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Posted 2010-May-16, 09:42
Best of both worlds in this situation --if they do play support doubles:
The support redouble would allow 2D.
The direct 2S raise nails partner's singleton or void in spades.
Life is good. If they don't play support redoubles, they are in the same dark as we are after 3D, and responder might bid 3S with either 4 or 5 of them when 3D would have been ugly.
The support redouble would allow 2D.
The direct 2S raise nails partner's singleton or void in spades.
Life is good. If they don't play support redoubles, they are in the same dark as we are after 3D, and responder might bid 3S with either 4 or 5 of them when 3D would have been ugly.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 10:56
I really cannot find a good reason not to bid 3D. Partner has stuck out his vulnerable neck for us in order for us to compete - I will be happy to let them play 3S, but not 2S - so I am going to force the decision to the 3 level. I cannot imagine there being less than an 8-card diamond fit.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 11:18
3♦. Must we pass and let pard bid our hand for us?
The passers get to listen to partner's rant about how we missed our vulnerable game when he doubled on x Axx AKxxx Qxxx.
The passers get to listen to partner's rant about how we missed our vulnerable game when he doubled on x Axx AKxxx Qxxx.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 13:33
Waiting for an edit of the example, Phil.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 19:03
Enlighten me, please.
Why would a Double of opps 2S rebid not be Responsive? I have cards, likely not 4 hearts (I would bid them), too much to pass with, and support/ tolerance for either minor.
3D just seems rather unilateral to me.
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Why would a Double of opps 2S rebid not be Responsive? I have cards, likely not 4 hearts (I would bid them), too much to pass with, and support/ tolerance for either minor.
3D just seems rather unilateral to me.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 19:10
maybe if 3 diamonds and 4 clubs..then responsive double or 2NT for scramble in minor. Being a simple soul, I assume doubler has the two unbid suits, and I have 4 in one of them.
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