[Cyberyeti]

Free, on May 18 2010, 04:42 AM, said:

kenrexford, on May 17 2010, 03:32 PM, said:

Free, on May 17 2010, 08:59 AM, said:

This hand is not only about trumps...

♠A, and if no honour falls I continue with 3 rounds of ♣ trying to discard my ♦.

Interesting problem. If LHO has KJx and pops King, he then can force a ruff in dummy and promote his Jack.
~snip~

I probably misunderstand. But when would LHO pop his ♠K? Under the Ace? If he does, he'll still only make 1 ♠ trick, so contract made.

You cash the A, cross back to hand, lead towards the Q, he flies in with the K and forces you to ruff with the Q promoting the J.

[gwnn]

points according to the book

-three clubs at tricks 2-4: 5 points
-finesse at trick 3: 3 points
-Ace of trump at trick 2 then three trumps: 1 point
-otherwise: 0

if East ruffs with an honour we sluff the diamond and finesse against the other honour, if he ruffs low we overruff and play a spade to the 8.

it's a nice solution that i never would have found (i just finessed at trick 3) but I am not sure it's correct.

[cherdanno]

Hmm is the book line really better than the finesse at trick 3?
The finesse loses against ♠K singleton with RHO. The book line loses whenever RHO has ♠Hx and at most 2 clubs (he should ruff the third club low).

Edit: I guess the book assumes RHO will ruff high when he can. Well from Kx is is really obvious to ruff low. I think from Jx good players will also find it without giving anything away.

[bluecalm]

Looks like books answers are mixed up imo.

[Free]

Cyberyeti, on May 18 2010, 11:25 AM, said:

Free, on May 18 2010, 04:42 AM, said:

kenrexford, on May 17 2010, 03:32 PM, said:

Free, on May 17 2010, 08:59 AM, said:

This hand is not only about trumps...

♠A, and if no honour falls I continue with 3 rounds of ♣ trying to discard my ♦.

Interesting problem. If LHO has KJx and pops King, he then can force a ruff in dummy and promote his Jack.
~snip~

I probably misunderstand. But when would LHO pop his ♠K? Under the Ace? If he does, he'll still only make 1 ♠ trick, so contract made.

You cash the A, cross back to hand, lead towards the Q, he flies in with the K and forces you to ruff with the Q promoting the J.

That's not gonna happen. If no honour falls, I'll play 3 rounds of ♣, not another round of ♠! I'll return to my hand later on with ♥Q to play on ♠s.
If an honour falls, it's safe to play ♠Q.