[kfay]

w/w

AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void

4th in hand.

(1♥)-2♥-(P)-?

[Phil]

I think pushing is a very bad idea here.

[billw55]

3♥

[jjbrr]

3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo

[bluecalm]

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All In?

You mean 5♥ as ERKCB to convince opponents to lead something different than ♥ ?

[Fluffy]

this is the easiest 5♠ ever, what am I missing?

[kfay]

Fluffy, on May 14 2010, 05:23 PM, said:

this is the easiest 5♠ ever, what am I missing?

Sure that's the technical bid

[the hog]

jjbrr, on May 14 2010, 10:44 PM, said:

3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo

Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....
I bid 5H

[aguahombre]

Whatever asks about heart control; apparently the Hog thinks it is 5H. I thought it was 5S. Whatever partner thinks is what counts

[MarkDean]

I would play it straight and ask for a heart control if we have an agreement about how to do that, but I do kind of like 7♠ directly. How many beers have I had?

[aguahombre]

Is that AI to partner?

[jdonn]

The_Hog, on May 14 2010, 08:56 PM, said:

jjbrr, on May 14 2010, 10:44 PM, said:

3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo

Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....
I bid 5H

But you are never shy to suggest your preferred treatments. You could try a little harder to accept those of others. I also start 3♦ which I also play as an artificial spade raise.

[the hog]

jdonn, on May 15 2010, 09:24 PM, said:

The_Hog, on May 14 2010, 08:56 PM, said:

jjbrr, on May 14 2010, 10:44 PM, said:

3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo

Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....
I bid 5H

But you are never shy to suggest your preferred treatments. You could try a little harder to accept those of others. I also start 3♦ which I also play as an artificial spade raise.

Its not my peferred agreement. That is standard opposite a michaels.

[aguahombre]

Hmm. I had never considered "pass or correct" as a use for 3D on this Michaels auction. Now, I find out it is standard. Guess I am never too old to learn.

Now I will wait for a hand where I would want to use 3D for that standard purpose.

[Fluffy]

ok kevin, did the bluff work?

[pooltuna]

kfay, on May 14 2010, 10:41 AM, said:

w/w

AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void

4th in hand.

(1♥)-2♥-(P)-?

is 5♥ really exclusion in this particular auction?

[ArtK78]

I cannot think of any other meaning for a 5♠ bid than asking for a heart control. So that is my choice.

Any sort of cue bid or artificial raise followed by a 5♠ bid may be misconstrued as a general slam try - especially if partner's next call is 4♠. So, this is probably your last opportunity to make the heart control ask.

[the hog]

pooltuna, on May 17 2010, 09:34 PM, said:

kfay, on May 14 2010, 10:41 AM, said:

w/w

AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void

4th in hand.

(1♥)-2♥-(P)-?

is 5♥ really exclusion in this particular auction?

What else should it be? I would play 5S as "bid 6 if you have good spades".

[mike777]

kfay, on May 14 2010, 10:41 AM, said:

w/w

AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void

4th in hand.

(1♥)-2♥-(P)-?

2nt...minor ask

going very slow

expect to end up in 4s......

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option two......5s over 2h.

h ask.

[aguahombre]

No doubt, that is what 2NT means, I just am not sure what good the inormation will do us. Eventually I only want to find out if partner has a heart control, so your option two seems the simplest to this simple person.

edit: also not sure I want the opps to know if we have an 11-card diamond fit. If there is a lightner double, I would rather opener choose his 4-card club suit to lead, than his doubleton diamond.