You play 1NT 14-16 and 2♦ opening as 3suiter if that's relevant. 2♣ is 6+♣.
1♦ opening is 10-15. We open every 11hcp.
First position:
AKJx
xx
xx
AQTxx
I thought opening this with 1NT is a bit too much of a stretch.
If open 1♦ I have easy rebid after 1♥/1♠. After 2♣/2♦ system will handle this hand too.
What to do after 1NT though ? Partner can still be 11 (we bid 2NT basically with 12hcp) so passing is a bit pessimistic.
So, what's the plan ?
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How do you handle hand of this kind in precision ?
#2
Posted 2010-May-03, 17:33
While I don't play the same style of precision you're using, in what I typically play a 2m rebid after 1♦-1NT does not guarantee length in the other minor. Basically the idea is:
(1) If I truly have 5+/4+ in the minors, then it's rare to have this auction without opponents coming in, and I can afford to jump to the 3-level in any case b/c I am guaranteed a pretty good fit.
(2) If I have one 5-card minor, like (34)51 or the like, then this auction is not all that unusual and we will usually have an 8-card or better fit in my minor (barring partner having some 3325 precisely or a really long minor suit of his own where he might've bid it).
(3) Bidding this way allows partner to raise with a maximum 1NT response, making it fairly easy to reach game most of the time with 14-15 unbalanced with a five-card minor opposite a maximum (10-11) 1NT response.
(4) Of course, this is influenced slightly by my style of opening 1♦ with (34)15 hands, which I suppose you would open 2♦.
So on the given hand I'd bid 2♣. Partner can pass (with a bad hand or doubleton club) or raise (with a good combination of values and club fit).
(1) If I truly have 5+/4+ in the minors, then it's rare to have this auction without opponents coming in, and I can afford to jump to the 3-level in any case b/c I am guaranteed a pretty good fit.
(2) If I have one 5-card minor, like (34)51 or the like, then this auction is not all that unusual and we will usually have an 8-card or better fit in my minor (barring partner having some 3325 precisely or a really long minor suit of his own where he might've bid it).
(3) Bidding this way allows partner to raise with a maximum 1NT response, making it fairly easy to reach game most of the time with 14-15 unbalanced with a five-card minor opposite a maximum (10-11) 1NT response.
(4) Of course, this is influenced slightly by my style of opening 1♦ with (34)15 hands, which I suppose you would open 2♦.
So on the given hand I'd bid 2♣. Partner can pass (with a bad hand or doubleton club) or raise (with a good combination of values and club fit).
Adam W. Meyerson
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
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#3
Posted 2010-May-03, 17:40
1N open for me, and I don't even think it's minimum. I like good suits...
Put it another way.... would you feel bad about opening 1N on:
Kxx
Qxx
Axx
AJxx
To me that is a MUCH worse hand. Sure, you've got "stoppers", but where are your working cards?
Put it another way.... would you feel bad about opening 1N on:
Kxx
Qxx
Axx
AJxx
To me that is a MUCH worse hand. Sure, you've got "stoppers", but where are your working cards?
#4
Posted 2010-May-03, 17:48
bluecalm, on May 3 2010, 07:20 PM, said:
You play 1NT 14-16 and 2♦ opening as 3suiter if that's relevant. 2♣ is 6+♣. 1♦ opening is 10-15. We open every 11hcp. First position:
AKJx
xx
xx
AQTxx
...What to do after 1NT though? ...
AKJx
xx
xx
AQTxx
...What to do after 1NT though? ...
say you had:
AKJx
x
xxx
AQTxx
1♦-1NT;-2♣ is a must. Treat your 4-2-2-5 with bad doubletons the same.
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#5
Posted 2010-May-03, 17:50
Just open 1N, what is the stretch about it? If you don't open 1N, you can never show a balanced hand that is this strong.
#6
Posted 2010-May-03, 18:51
The plan is show my hand by opening 1NT.
I think he means a stretch because 2 suits are wide open, not because the point count is insufficient.
I think he means a stretch because 2 suits are wide open, not because the point count is insufficient.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#7
Posted 2010-May-03, 19:06
Opening 1NT on hands like this has clear bad things that could happen but a lot of clear good things that could happen too (they lead one of your suits, they misdefend later, you get to the same contract anyway giving less information). I say just do it and simplify your life when nothing else fits.
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#9
Posted 2010-May-04, 01:41
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(3) Bidding this way allows partner to raise with a maximum 1NT response, making it fairly easy to reach game most of the time with 14-15 unbalanced with a five-card minor opposite a maximum (10-11) 1NT response.
Thanks, your response was very helpful
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Just open 1N, what is the stretch about it? If you don't open 1N, you can never show a balanced hand that is this strong.
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I think he means a stretch because 2 suits are wide open, not because the point count is insufficient.
Yeah, that's what I mean. My chances to either right side the contract or to play in partscore on 7♠ or partscore/game in ♣ are basically gone.
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I say just do it and simplify your life when nothing else fits.
Well, I have too little experience to say but my intuition don't like it. I am going to try it more often and see
#10
Posted 2010-May-04, 01:51
I would just open 1NT. You have the correct range and 5422's are balanced.
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
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