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#1 User is offline   pooltuna 

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Posted 2010-May-02, 14:53

...across the face and say "WAKE UP STUPID"


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1♣ 1♦
1♥ 2♦
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opening lead is a small ♠ and your RHO plays small


This is one of them :)

so plan the play and you get to start thinking after dummy plays cause all of dummy's ♠s are equal
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Posted 2010-May-02, 14:57

Win the Ace of Spades...
Bang out two top diamonds
Lead a spade...
Alderaan delenda est
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Posted 2010-May-02, 15:16

hrothgar, on May 2 2010, 03:57 PM, said:

Win the Ace of Spades...
Bang out two top diamonds
Lead a spade...

clearly you are operating at 1000 milligrams of caffeine per cc of blood :)
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-May-02, 15:34

hrothgar, on May 2 2010, 03:57 PM, said:

Win the Ace of Spades...
Bang out two top diamonds
Lead a spade...

you did notice this is a BI thread, right?
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Posted 2010-May-02, 15:40

poor matmat you didn't have enough time to solve it? :)
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Posted 2010-May-02, 15:44

gwnn, on May 2 2010, 04:40 PM, said:

poor matmat you didn't have enough time to solve it? :)

Not nearly.

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Posted 2010-May-02, 15:46

I'm pretty sure there is a bridge master hand that is nearly exactly this. Don't win the "free" finesse opening or it will turn out to be quite costly!
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Posted 2010-May-02, 16:40

seeing as this thread is going nowhere I'd like to mention that normally you'd put declarer South, this really screws with your head, I had to turn my monitor upside down but then I couldn't read the ranks :)
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Posted 2010-May-02, 17:57

gwnn, on May 2 2010, 05:40 PM, said:

seeing as this thread is going nowhere I'd like to mention that normally you'd put declarer South, this really screws with your head, I had to turn my monitor upside down but then I couldn't read the ranks :)

sorry but had to compensate for the simplicity of the solution :)
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
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Posted 2010-May-02, 22:15

The only small risk is win the lead in dummy is five diamonds in one hand then taking the opening finesse is probably the only way to make the hand.
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Posted 2010-May-02, 22:57

I enjoyed seeing that pooltuna had begun a thread with this name before I even looked at the posts.
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Posted 2010-May-03, 06:36

matmat, on May 3 2010, 12:34 AM, said:

hrothgar, on May 2 2010, 03:57 PM, said:

Win the Ace of Spades...
Bang out two top diamonds
Lead a spade...

you did notice this is a BI thread, right?

Sorry, wasn't paying attention...
Alderaan delenda est
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Posted 2010-May-03, 09:57

hrothgar, on May 3 2010, 07:36 AM, said:

matmat, on May 3 2010, 12:34 AM, said:

hrothgar, on May 2 2010, 03:57 PM, said:

Win the Ace of Spades...
Bang out two top diamonds
Lead a spade...

you did notice this is a BI thread, right?

Sorry, wasn't paying attention...

Sometimes you need someone to slap you.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-May-04, 10:16

Fortunately I had this solved before hrothgar trumped the thread.

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The only small risk is win the lead in dummy is five diamonds in one hand then taking the opening finesse is probably the only way to make the hand.


It's possible, but that's how it goes in bridge. 60% of the time, it doesn't matter which way you go. 35% of the time, the right line wins. 5% of the time, the bangers win, and you lose.

Have to just keep trying to find the higher percentage lines, and don't worry too much about individual results.

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Posted 2010-May-04, 11:33

The title to this thread is good, but it could just as easily have been "Think before you play from dummy!"
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Posted 2010-May-04, 12:14

ArtK78, on May 4 2010, 12:33 PM, said:

The title to this thread is good, but it could just as easily have been "Think before you play from dummy!"

Absolutely NOT! Play a card the instant you realize all of dummy's cards are equal, I don't think this is illegal or even unethical as your RHO ought to be thinking about the hand as a whole. This gives you some possibly not useful insight into RHO's problems with the hand. However, THINK and plan before you play a card from your hand.
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
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George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-May-04, 13:47

pooltuna, on May 4 2010, 01:14 PM, said:

ArtK78, on May 4 2010, 12:33 PM, said:

The title to this thread is good, but it could just as easily have been "Think before you play from dummy!"

Absolutely NOT! Play a card the instant you realize all of dummy's cards are equal, I don't think this is illegal or even unethical as your RHO ought to be thinking about the hand as a whole. This gives you some possibly not useful insight into RHO's problems with the hand. However, THINK and plan before you play a card from your hand.

Lol what? How about planning before you play from dummy anyway in case it would be advantageous to make your from-hand play in tempo! And who said anything about illegal or unethical anyway?
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Posted 2010-May-04, 18:39

jdonn, on May 4 2010, 11:47 AM, said:

pooltuna, on May 4 2010, 01:14 PM, said:

ArtK78, on May 4 2010, 12:33 PM, said:

The title to this thread is good, but it could just as easily have been "Think before you play from dummy!"

Absolutely NOT! Play a card the instant you realize all of dummy's cards are equal, I don't think this is illegal or even unethical as your RHO ought to be thinking about the hand as a whole. This gives you some possibly not useful insight into RHO's problems with the hand. However, THINK and plan before you play a card from your hand.

Lol what? How about planning before you play from dummy anyway in case it would be advantageous to make your from-hand play in tempo! And who said anything about illegal or unethical anyway?

Yeah, or what if you play from dummy, and then thinking about the hand some more and planning something realize you better review what the opponents funny early auction was. Too bad you lost that right when you called for a card from the dummy!
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Posted 2010-May-04, 18:40

Don't worry mbodell, we don't have to take advice regarding the dummy from someone who doesn't even know dummy is always north. :blink:
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