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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-April-25, 18:58

Axxx
Kxx
JT87
xx

KTx
AQJxx
x
AQxx

p-p-p-1♥
x-2♥-p-4♥

we are unfav imps and LHO leads the T of hearts.

♥-K-♥-♥
♣-♣-Q-K
♥

dude stop playing trumps. anywaysss
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Posted 2010-April-25, 19:35

I think you need to be more specific about the spots.
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Posted 2010-April-25, 19:41

hm I had the eight of clubs and not else that I can remember ..
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Posted 2010-April-25, 19:58


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Posted 2010-April-26, 02:48

gwnn, on Apr 26 2010, 12:58 AM, said:

dude stop playing trumps. anywaysss

Nevermind, he will stop playing trumps to switch to spades and break the squeeze :P
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Posted 2010-April-26, 03:39

If LHO has ♦A+K or ♦A+K+Q or ♠QJ9x i think he would (should) have chosen one of these, not a trump lead. This makes him heavy favorite to have ♣K. (or marks him with?). Lead looks like from Tx. And he should have exactly 2/3 from AKQ.

That makes starting line in OP wierd as playing him for Kxx (♣Q+♣ruff) seems much superior.

It would be really helpful if you could get count in ♣, so you knew whether to play for Kxx or Kxxx.

I am not sure where it is best to win 1st trick and how to get count in best way, but if it goes like:

1. ♥T-♥K-♥-♥
2. ♣-♣-♣A-♣
If you get information that ♣ most probably split 4♣ (with K) - 3♣, you can probably assume he has ♠???? ♥Tx ♦HHx ♣K???. You need to give them ♦ trick now to cut off communication, else if you play ♣Q they return ♥. And you will lose 2♣;1♦;1♠.
3. ♦-♦H-♦-♦ (It will hardly go ♦-♦-♦-♦H as it leaves LHO with bare HH, i think you can just follow main plan)
4. ♥-♥-♥-♥A
Need to get LHO on lead again, as he has no return
5. ♣Q-♣K-♣-♣


Something like that, with LHO on lead


If he returns ♦, you can ruff ♣ and establish ♦ trick.

If he returns ♠ win in hand, ruff ♣, ruff ♦ and play ♥ from top first squeezing from ♦, then endplaying with your last ♣.

If he returns ♣, you can ruff, ruff ♦, cash trumps forcing to keep 3♠ and 1♣, then ♠A-♠K and you have one more trick as ♦ position is like JT-Hx
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Posted 2010-April-26, 04:50

wclass___, on Apr 26 2010, 04:39 AM, said:

If LHO has ♦A+K or ♦A+K+Q or ♠QJ9x i think he would (should) have chosen one of these, not a trump lead. This makes him heavy favorite to have ♣K. (or marks him with?).

? I thought LHO passed as dealer.....
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Posted 2010-April-26, 05:37

that's true, LHO made a passed hand takeout double. but nice reply, will need to go over it
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