[blackshoe]

And in the US, at least in my area, we're still doing it the way Gordon describes.

[bluejak]

No doubt 4 copies are sufficient for a smooth event, but you need 16 copies not 4 to eliminate the problems talked about. In your event some boards were played at one table, and finished, before being started at another.

[pran]

bluejak, on Apr 12 2010, 06:04 PM, said:

No doubt 4 copies are sufficient for a smooth event, but you need 16 copies not 4 to eliminate the problems talked about.  In your event some boards were played at one table, and finished, before being started at another.

Even 16 copies (separate copy for each table) doesn't help against loud comments. In fact one copy for each table means that they all play the same board (more or less) simultaneously so they will "know" that what they hear is probably about the very same board they are playing themselves at the moment.

And about separate sets for each match: This is perfectly OK in KO matches, but not in leagues where you add up VP. We have always been very concerned about all matches playing the same boards in order to eliminate any argument that the boards played in one match could likely result in much higher IMP swings than the boards played in another.

[bluejak]

I was not advocating 16 copies, which I think crazy. But someone introduced a problem, and you said

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This is definitely no problem in Norway; we duplicate the sufficient copies of identical boards so that all tables play the same boards during the same round.

which simply is not true. Of course it is not "definitely no problem" because it is exactly the problem being talked about. You play board 3, at the end say "But of course a diamond lead beats 6♥" and a nearby table is just about to play board 3. That is the problem being discussed, and will definitely occur in a Norwegian event run the way you say.

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I was commenting on the same boards being played in different rounds at different tables in for instance Swiss Teams events. My assertion was, and still is that we do not run such events this way in Norway and thus that this problem does not exist here.

Who on earth runs events that way? And what does that have to do with the subject under discussion?

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And in the US, at least in my area, we're still doing it the way Gordon describes.

Don't I know it. The worst thing by far about playing in the North American Nationals is Swiss Teams that antiquated method of dealing and no hand copies.