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#21 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-April-14, 19:51

QJxxx
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AJxx
Axx

so was this substantial extras or just extreme distribution?
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Posted 2010-April-16, 06:01

Yes Ari, if you can change that NT needing extras rule, I think that would be great and would probably help one of the problem auctions I listed earlier, that GIB is reluctant to bid 2NT or 3NT in overcall auctions.

I find that in general GIB will pattern out if it hasn't yet been able to describe its hand. So for

QJxxx
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AJxx
Axx

it would most likely bid on over 1S-3NT (that's not rigorously defined) but after 1S-1N-2D-3N would pass having already bid its hand.

This happens a lot in auctions where you know you just want to be in 3NT, but playing with GIB, if 2NT is forcing on your auction, you have to bid it to let GIB finish patterning out.
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Posted 2010-April-23, 11:50

gib pulled my 3NT again on a 5134 13 count, I thought there was a new rule? It would be nice to know whether is one or not
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Posted 2010-April-23, 15:02

gwnn, on Apr 23 2010, 01:50 PM, said:

gib pulled my 3NT again on a 5134 13 count, I thought there was a new rule? It would be nice to know whether is one or not

The new "rule" likely has not been released yet (assuming it was actually implemented).
http://forums.bridge...topic=37720&hl=
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