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#21 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-April-01, 10:24

edit: oops
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 10:25

gwnn, on Apr 1 2010, 04:24 PM, said:

edit: oops

hehe I read it :blink:
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Posted 2010-April-01, 10:31

mikeh, on Apr 1 2010, 11:00 AM, said:

Jlall, on Apr 1 2010, 10:33 AM, said:

They are red/white so they might be cold! We should pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought about that: after all, they are very strong opps:


Maybe West should redouble?

Note that 6N is a great save....maybe Art forsaw this?

Of course. That is exactly what I had in mind.

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Really, though, why is this hand posted when the answer is so obvious? How could anyone ever not double 6♠?
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Posted 2010-April-01, 10:45

brain fart deleted
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Posted 2010-April-01, 10:56

ohhh but that's impossible, since WE have the 9 of spades
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Posted 2010-April-01, 11:26

gwnn, on Apr 1 2010, 11:56 AM, said:

ohhh but that's impossible, since WE have the 9 of spades

But they'll make it anyways!
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Posted 2010-April-01, 11:50

oh :D OK then I guess we have to save
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Posted 2010-April-01, 14:33

6NT in case either side is making.

hehehe
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Posted 2010-April-01, 14:38

OleBerg, on Apr 1 2010, 03:43 AM, said:

From a Danish open teams selection tournament. Opponents are very strong.

Scoring: XIMP

2♣ - (X) - XX - (6♠)
???

2♣ = Unknown gameforce or 19+ balanced.
X = Undiscussed.
XX = Excactly one control, forced.

Double is defined as penalty, and partner will never pull.

What do you bid?
If you pass or double, what do you lead?

Is this an April Fool's joke?
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Posted 2010-April-01, 14:51

ArtK78, on Apr 1 2010, 03:38 PM, said:

Is this an April Fool's joke?

Dang, you beat me to it.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 15:36

I spent three hours trying to come up with a reason not to double.

Over the same period, I came up with about 20 reasons why I should.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 16:46

I don't consider myself to be an expert, so I don't normally post here, but ...

If the opponents bid this way on Mikeh's hand, I'm calling the director. There is no way they can do that without a wire on the board. I mean, West doubles with xxxxx in clubs; East jumps in his 10 high suit instead of his 100 honor suit, and catches partner with 4 card support in his suit and a void in the other.

No way.

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Posted 2010-April-01, 17:54

It seems that everybody in this forums afflicted with doubling contracts they can't defeat, and making pseudo-expert leads, that sends contracts home.

The full deal, rotated 90 degrees:



After the double and the lead of the ♦A, the play was swift:

Ruff in dummy, underruff with the 2.
Club ruff.
Four heart-finesses and four club ruffs.

Declarer was now down to ♠AJ10 while his LHO had ♠KQ9. A spade out of the hand now endplayed LHO, and the contract was made.

Not only did the foolish double with only one sure trick (The opponents know what they are doing when the bid vulnerable) draw a roadmap for declarer to make the contract, but the silly lead sealed the coffin.

Had East simply led fourth best in the longest and strongest (as is custom when you hold thrumph strenght), instead of the beginners singleton, the contract could still not have been made.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:02

They are red/white? I would pass, if partner can't double we should rather save. He might bid with a 12-card suit, e.g.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:06

It's high time we changed the 2C structure in competition anyway.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:09

I was pretty sure when I was leading that the singleton spade in dummy would be the 2.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:09

Phil, on Apr 1 2010, 03:36 PM, said:

I spent three hours trying to come up with a reason not to double.

Over the same period, I came up with about 20 reasons why I should.

and I spent the same time trying to figure out why I opened 2C. Maybe there would have been more info available if I hadn't....maybe there wouldn't, but 2C really sucks
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:30

At least you have someone to blame,partner for not bidding diamonds at a high level on the first response, 5♦ is not unreasonable. 4♦ is OK to check for the slam and at least warn you to be careful.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:34

but it was important to show one control. I dont think 6NT would have been a good save.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:54

This was a real hand? How many people played it? Where can I read about it?
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