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#1 User is offline   hanp 

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Posted 2010-March-27, 15:27

This hand came up today in a Dutch pairs tournament:

x
Jxx
QJ10xxx
KQJ

AQx
A987xx
K
Axx

You find yourself in 4H after the following auction:

1H - 1S - 2S - 3S
4C - p - 4H - all pass

LHO leads a spade to the jack and your queen. You cash the ace of hearts and RHO plays the queen. What now?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-March-27, 18:18

I'd better
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Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2010-March-27, 18:26

I take "pairs" to mean MP, I think Han wants you to maximize your chances of an overtrick while minimizing the risk.
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Posted 2010-March-27, 20:14

I don't see
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rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
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Posted 2010-March-27, 20:33

I don't get it either. Maybe I could try to play a diamond from the dummy to steal a trick but I doubt it will work.
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#6 User is offline   Jlall 

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Posted 2010-March-27, 20:42

What tricks are you in danger of losing? What are some ways around that?

More specifically, the way the spade suit and the trump suit interact with each other on this hand is pretty interesting.

Another hint:
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Posted 2010-March-28, 05:38

Without reading Justin's hint,
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Posted 2010-March-28, 08:08

Yeah good job vuroth, I think thats the right solution
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Posted 2010-March-29, 06:39

Yeah that's what I had in mind. It may have been better to play the diamond king before the heart ace though, as you won't need to go back and forth in clubs.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-March-29, 10:18

Very easy to misplay this.
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Posted 2010-March-31, 10:00

I must be missing something -- I don't understand what the problem is. At the table, I would proceed by

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Posted 2010-March-31, 10:05

Kivgaen, on Mar 31 2010, 11:00 AM, said:

What am I missing?

You make 4 instead of making 5 which is not that great at matchpoints
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Posted 2010-March-31, 10:05

Kivgaen, on Mar 31 2010, 09:30 PM, said:

I must be missing something -- I don't understand what the problem is.

The problem is that this is MPs and a chance to win 11 tricks would be great.

edit: jlall beat me.. there should be a notification before submitting a post if a new post has come up during the time you were composing your post just like gmail.

This post has been edited by mohitz: 2010-March-31, 10:08

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Posted 2010-March-31, 11:20

Jlall, on Mar 31 2010, 11:05 AM, said:

Kivgaen, on Mar 31 2010, 11:00 AM, said:

What am I missing?

You make 4 instead of making 5 which is not that great at matchpoints

Thanks :rolleyes: Actually I asked my mother-in-law a few moments after I clicked "add reply" and she filled me in on what I was missing.

I guess that's why I really suck at MP games... I have a bit of tunnel vision when it comes to making my contract.
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Posted 2010-March-31, 12:58

Kivgaen, on Mar 31 2010, 12:20 PM, said:

Jlall, on Mar 31 2010, 11:05 AM, said:

Kivgaen, on Mar 31 2010, 11:00 AM, said:

What am I missing?

You make 4 instead of making 5 which is not that great at matchpoints

Thanks :rolleyes: Actually I asked my mother-in-law a few moments after I clicked "add reply" and she filled me in on what I was missing.

I guess that's why I really suck at MP games... I have a bit of tunnel vision when it comes to making my contract.

I have nothing to add to this thread. I just wanted to welcome you to the Forums, Kivgaen. Hopefully reading some of the threads here will broaden your vision.
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Posted 2012-March-25, 03:00

You must now play KD. If RHO has KQ10 H, you cannot play a H or he will draw trumps and knock out your S stopper.
You will go down after they take their AD and cash the 3rd S.
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