Do you have any methods to bid this?
splinters not allowed?
#1
Posted 2010-March-21, 17:55
Do you have any methods to bid this?
Bridge should be fun!
#2
Posted 2010-March-21, 19:34
jillybean, on Mar 21 2010, 06:55 PM, said:
(P) 1♣ (P) 1♥
(P) ?
Do you have any methods to bid this?
#3
Posted 2010-March-21, 20:29
If you play 4♣ as Gerber, you are able to ask for controls and still stop in 4♥ (if partner bids 4♠ you go looking for slam as they have the missing Aces).
#4
Posted 2010-March-21, 20:32
bab9, on Mar 21 2010, 08:29 PM, said:
If you play 4♣ as Gerber, you are able to ask for controls and still stop in 4♥ (if partner bids 4♠ you go looking for slam as they have the missing Aces).
lol
#5
Posted 2010-March-21, 20:36
Classic early bridge bid 'around the clock.' Reverse with 2D and jump to 4H
next to show a 4 card raise with spade shortness. With only 3 card support,
you next support hearts without a jump.
Regards,
Robert
#6
Posted 2010-March-21, 20:59
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#7
Posted 2010-March-21, 22:17
nige1, on Mar 21 2010, 06:34 PM, said:
jillybean, on Mar 21 2010, 06:55 PM, said:
(P) 1♣ (P) 1♥
(P) ?
Do you have any methods to bid this?
Splinters are on the menu, but not with an Ace. So 3♠ is out under those rules and 4♥ makes me ill.
Bridge should be fun!
#8
Posted 2010-March-21, 22:19
Cascade, on Mar 21 2010, 07:59 PM, said:
Haha, or stop playing with pickup experts.
West North East South
- 1♠ Pass 4♥
Pass Pass Pass
Interesting hand to play and only down 4
Bridge should be fun!
#9
Posted 2010-March-21, 22:22
jillybean, on Mar 22 2010, 05:17 PM, said:
nige1, on Mar 21 2010, 06:34 PM, said:
jillybean, on Mar 21 2010, 06:55 PM, said:
(P) 1♣ (P) 1♥
(P) ?
Do you have any methods to bid this?
Splinters are on the menu, but not with an Ace. So 3♠ is out under those rules and 4♥ makes me ill.
I would still splinter with stiff ace.
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#10
Posted 2010-March-21, 22:46
jillybean, on Mar 21 2010, 11:17 PM, said:
Then I suggest you become better friends with the chef.
Obvious 3♠
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#11
Posted 2010-March-21, 22:51
Cascade, on Mar 21 2010, 09:22 PM, said:
Heh you don't live in North America, the general approach here is no splinter with an Ace, but I don't see how you can do without it on hands like this.
Bridge should be fun!
#12
Posted 2010-March-21, 23:19
Either splinter with the stiff Ace, or just barge to 4H --allegedly showing a balanced hand. If you fail to splinter, but rather "bid around" the shortness by reversing and then jumping, you have still shown shortness in spades; the shortness is still an ace; and you will have overstated the strength of the hand.
Best to just pick the splinter, IMO -- tell the rule maker you mis-sorted and thought you had the club ace and the spade 4.
#13
Posted 2010-March-21, 23:52
bed
#14
Posted 2010-March-22, 03:00
jillybean, on Mar 21 2010, 11:19 PM, said:
Cascade, on Mar 21 2010, 07:59 PM, said:
Haha, or stop playing with pickup experts.
West North East South
- 1♠ Pass 4♥
Pass Pass Pass
Interesting hand to play and only down 4
Dose he/she need to preempt when one side have the strengh and ... perhaps both majors?
#15
Posted 2010-March-22, 03:08
We will avoid splinter with an honor as much as possible.
To reverse with ♦QTx is not my taste neither, when p happens to hold ♦xxxx...
Looks like 4♥ is good enough.
EDIT: 4NT is wrong here. It is just a gamble.
After all only A's and K's are concerned!
#16
Posted 2010-March-22, 03:33
First of all - this is not a B/I question.
There was a thread in the last 1-2 month, which discussed using 3M+1
in this sequence as a forcing raise of responders major.
The main focus was on showing stromng bal. hand with 18-19HCP
with a fit, but if you happen to play this, than you are would have also
the option to use this agreement to show this hand.
A alternative is to bid 4M, which basically showes a 18-19 semibal.
hand with support, and this description comes close, the downside
is of course, that you have burned a lot of space.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#17
Posted 2010-March-22, 04:05
George Carlin
#18
Posted 2010-March-22, 07:49
His answer to my next question, what do you say to people who flatly refuse to splinter with an Ace?, was simple,
"learn to play bridge"
Enough said, I'm throwing this rule out!
Bridge should be fun!
#19
Posted 2010-March-22, 08:15
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Better yet Jilly, just adopt my philosophy (and I've said this out loud at the table many times) "There are no rules in bridge, only guidelines."
Sometimes you need to 1NT with two doubletons or a singleton, sometimes you need to bid a 3 card suit when it "promises" 4. Sometimes you need to make a bid that's the smallest lie, and when I do that I just roll out the line from above. It's more honest than claiming "I had a club mixed in with my spades" or similar.
#20
Posted 2010-March-22, 10:14
G_R__E_G, on Mar 22 2010, 03:15 PM, said:
I think that's a bad analogy.
You try to avoid opening 1NT with a singleton. Once in a blue moon you have a hand where the other options are worse.
As for splinters with a sec ace, either you do it or you don't. If you don't splinter with a sec ace then this hand is a wtp 4♥ bid.

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(P) 1♣ (P) 1♥
(P) ?