[aguahombre]

Scoring: IMP

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I got a good chuckle out of all the disasters in bidding this hand.

Whether 2-way minor forces or old-way one-way, it was clear that the opening bid style, opening NT range, follow-up agreements, and a lot of other clutter prevented several good pairs from surviving this hand.

One pair managed to find their 4-2 heart fit after a 1D (2+) opening.
7D was reached at another table.
6NT occurred.
3NT, etc.

The hard part seemed to be sorting out that there was a diamond fit in time to find the right controls and leasurely land in 6D.

Old fashioned Hardy would have made short work of the hand.

1D (4+ or exactly 4-4-3-2) - 1S
1NT (weak NT range) - 2C (PLOB/NMF)
2H (2-4-4-3 11-12) -3D (sets trump for slam) notes: with 2-3-4-4 would open 1C; if resp didn't want slam, would sign off in NT or 5D
3H (Cue) -3S (cue)
4C (cue) -4D (Wood- or Wood of your choice)
(answer showing 3KC) -6D
Opener, at the two level has already shown a very weak opener and his exact distribution. Opener then never has to put on the brakes, but can just cooperate. It doesn't seem to me that there is the same degree of comfort when using 2D as GF and opener has never shown good/bad.

[Mbodell]

I really think you have some weird grudge against 2-way or don't understand it. Our auction with 2-way would be exactly the same as yours except the 2♣ call would be 2♦. The same inferences are there when partner bids 3♥ instead of 3nt/5♦.

[ONEferBRID]

Even if Opener had a max ( ~14 ), a few of us have come to the conclusion that Opener's rebid after NMF should remain, if possible, at the 2-level.
Let's say Opener was:
x x
A Q T x
K J x x
A T 9

1D - 1S
1NT - 2C!
3H-jump( Hardy, showing max ) - ?? now Responder doesn't have the convenient 3D ( GF ) bid with which to shift emphasis from Sp to Diam. In turn this would shift RKC to 4NT ( eventho I've been told that "real bridge players don't use Blackwood" ).

[aguahombre]

Obviously from the results in the vandy, your inferences are better than theirs. (that was for mbodell.

Onefer: There is no jump to the 3-level in Hardy that does not have 3 spades. Your example would bid 2NT (max with 2), and allow for strain exploration and slam tries without the unneccesary preemption of 3H.

[Mbodell]

Well, to be fair, if it was MP and not IMPs I'm pretty sure I'm playing 3nt. If West opens a weak nt, I'm pretty sure I'm playing 3nt. And only in teams will I explore for slam and then end up playing 6♦. Which by my calculations isn't actually a great slam. Don't we need trump 3-2 (~68%) AND the spade J coming down in three rounds (~52%)? It is going to be hard to make it on a club lead if trump are 3-2 but spades are 4-2 with the J in 4 card suit. Maybe on a non-club lead I can survive the 3-2 4J-2 case, but I'm not sure.

[aguahombre]

maybe on a club lead you have to just hope for spades to run by going up and back. Diamonds 4-1 won't matter if that is your choice. But the commentators seemed to think it was a good slam (I guess they peeked at the good breaks).

[jjbrr]

While the results on this hand were a bit ridiculous, I don't think it has anything to do with the convention. 1♦ 1♠ 1NT 2♦ 2♥ 3♦ is perfectly normal, but after that it's still 12 opposite 15 with no extra trump length and no shortness. I don't think it's easy by any stretch of the imagination to get to 6♦, and it's not even clear you want to be there. Obv on the actual hand you wanted to be in 6♦ with Jx of ♠ onside and trumps split (I think? I don't remember) but otherwise I would expect 3NT to be the normal contract.

[aguahombre]

Yeh, well maybe I am prejudiced. But the point was that Opener hears a slam try after he has already shown weakness (11 or 12), and can comfortably cooperate ---while perhaps others who had not yet shown a mini would be more reluctant.