[peachy]

I forgot to pick up a hand record last night so I don't have the spots. Think it was Board 12 in the second session of Red Ribbon qualification.

You open 1D with this: AQxx-void-AQJxxx-Qxx.

1D (1H) 3D (3H) [3D=preemptive]
3S (P) 4S (P)
P (P)

Rate my actions please.

[Apollo81]

I don't know why you would want to play a 4-3 fit being tapped in the long hand. I would just bid 5♦ over 3♥.

[ArtK78]

Can partner have 4 spades on your auction?

I don't mind the 3♠ bid. It gives partner some information if the opponents bid on over 5♦. But if partner cannot have 4 spades then I bid 5♦ over 4♠.

[peachy]

ArtK78, on Mar 19 2010, 01:53 PM, said:

Can partner have 4 spades on your auction?

He has denied four spades by the 3D call, and I have never seen flyers from this partner, so 4-card spades with him was virtually impossible.

[jdonn]

Pass = 100, other = 0.

Wait partner can't have 4 spades? I'm not sure why but if that's the case then on the prior round 5♦ = 100, other = 0.

[Phil]

ArtK78, on Mar 19 2010, 01:53 PM, said:

Can partner have 4 spades on your auction?

I don't mind the 3♠ bid. It gives partner some information if the opponents bid on over 5♦. But if partner cannot have 4 spades then I bid 5♦ over 4♠.

This also gives the opponents information and helps them bid 5H. 3S sounds like a 5-6 anyway.

Agree with the direct 5D.

[jjbrr]

In my style 3♦ wouldn't deny 4♠. Partner could have a hand with lots of ♦ that's too weak for a neg dbl. So I like all the actions you took if you're playing my style.

If 3♦ denied 4♠, I'd try 5♦ over 3♥.

[peachy]

jdonn, on Mar 19 2010, 02:15 PM, said:

Pass = 100, other = 0.

Wait partner can't have 4 spades? I'm not sure why but if that's the case then on the prior round 5♦ = 100, other = 0.

This was a second session I have ever played with this partner. My estimate on possibility of 4 spades in his hand was based on only what I saw in first session, we had not discussed whether 4-card spades is "allowed" for a preemptive raise of minor. I guess with excessive diamond length, he might have that. What's your vote under these circumstances?

[the hog]

5D. And have a discussion afterwards. I think she thinks 6-5 shape.

[MFA]

Of course, if you have a clear understanding that 3♠ surely denies four spades, then we can't pass 4♠ now. I would have thought that partner's 4♠ showed four, and that we with a 6-5 were assumed to bid 3♠ and then 4♠ next time.

[whereagles]

I'm ok with 3♠ and I'm sticking to 4♠ because pard might well have 4 spades if he's *really* weak, say 4-5 hcp.

BUT.. if pard is a fanatic fundamentalist who would rather die than to let judgement go over agreements, THEN bid 5♦.

[gnasher]

I don't think 3♦ should deny four spades, so I'd have your auction.

To cater for 5-6 shapes, partner can bid 4♥ over 3♠ to show three spades and a hand that wants to play in game.

[mike777]

peachy, on Mar 19 2010, 01:17 PM, said:

I forgot to pick up a hand record last night so I don't have the spots. Think it was Board 12 in the second session of Red Ribbon qualification.

You open 1D with this: AQxx-void-AQJxxx-Qxx.

1D (1H) 3D (3H) [3D=preemptive]
3S (P) 4S (P)
P (P)

Rate my actions please.

interestingpost


I would guess pard does not have 4s on this auction but.....interesting question.

[the hog]

whereagles, on Mar 21 2010, 03:52 AM, said:

I'm ok with 3♠ and I'm sticking to 4♠ because pard might well have 4 spades if he's *really* weak, say 4-5 hcp.

BUT.. if pard is a fanatic fundamentalist who would rather die than to let judgement go over agreements, THEN bid 5♦.

Nuno, Peachy did say, "He has denied four spades by the 3D call." So I think we have to assume that to be the case.

[whereagles]

I understand. My point is just that in some hands it pays to break discipline. I would be willing to do it, but yeah maybe we shouldn't be thinking this particular player did it.

[nigel_k]

5♦ earlier is clearly right if partner cannot have four spades and pass clearly right if he can.

Opposite an expert I'd assume 3♦ can have four spades unless specifically agreed otherwise, and it doesn't sound like you had that agreement. I would routinely bid 3♦ instead of dbl with a weak 4-5.

Otherwise it all depends on what you know about partner. Some people are quite wooden in the way they will always show Jxxx in a major ahead of anything else. Given the uncertainty, you might bid 5♦ anyway just to make sure you avoid a bottom.

[Codo]

If I have a diamond fit and spades, why should I bury the spade fit at mps?
2 Spade is much better then 3 diamond and you cannot reach the spot if your first bid is 3 diamonds. So to me (and luckily to my partner) 3 ♦ denies 4 spades and 3 ♠ had not shown 4 of them.

[peachy]

Thanks all for your comments.
Dummy had Kxx-xx-K10xxx-Jxx. Spades were 3-3 so I made 4S and 5D would have also made because one club goes on the fourth spade. Had spades not split, neither 4S nor 5D makes when I did not have the club ten, nor did dummy, but all in all 5D is safer no matter what happens. MP... I took the chance and apparently so did partner.

[nige1]

peachy, on Mar 19 2010, 01:17 PM, said:

I forgot to pick up a hand record last night so I don't have the spots.  Think it was Board 12 in the second session of Red Ribbon qualification.  You open 1D with this: AQxx-void-AQJxxx-Qxx.
1D (1H) 3D (3H)   [3D=preemptive]
3S (P)   4S  (P)
P   (P)
Rate my actions please.

If there have been 3 passes, then you should postpone further action until LHO has made his lead.