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Poll: well? (46 member(s) have cast votes)

well?

  1. bok bok bok (15 votes [32.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.61%

  2. looks like notrump, smells like notrump (20 votes [43.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.48%

  3. well i do have 5 of them (4 votes [8.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  4. i'm too creative (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. i dont understand these choices (7 votes [15.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.22%

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#1 User is offline   Apollo81 

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Posted 2010-February-05, 00:30

RHO opens 2 10-13 hcp 6+

you hold at favorable imps

K63
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whats yer call
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Posted 2010-February-05, 00:31

p > 2n > 3h
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Posted 2010-February-05, 00:57

Pretty clear pass IMO, it is a huge long term loser to pretend these things are just weak 2's.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 01:07

p > 2n > dbl > 3h

clear pass for me
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Posted 2010-February-05, 01:28

Pass, I don't find it clear at all though. I would def be bidding if we were say, red/white, but white/red there just isn't nearly as much reason to stretch.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 01:36

2NT, maybe this is not great but I know I would bid it at the table.

I don't think double and 3 are really on the menu at all.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 01:39

rogerclee, on Feb 5 2010, 01:57 AM, said:

Pretty clear pass IMO, it is a huge long term loser to pretend these things are just weak 2's.

I mean most people would overcall 1N if they opened 1S showing 12-21 with 5+spades. Sure it's a level lower so that isn't a great analogy, but my point is just that if you bid it's not that you're pretending they have a weak 2, you're just bidding because you think you have to bid.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 01:55

torn between pass and 2NT, my mind was made up by the poll choices. I am not going to vote for a public confession of my chickenitude.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 02:03

Pass and this is pretty clear. The hand is simply not good enough to bid at the 2 level.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 02:17

Apollo81, on Feb 5 2010, 01:30 AM, said:

RHO opens 2 10-13 hcp 6+

you hold at favorable imps

K63
QJ532
AJ8
A5

whats yer call

back up...



2s shows 4-5 tricks........unlimited tiny points......


lets just get 2spades clear at this vul....not Confusing
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Posted 2010-February-05, 07:33

Comparing the votes and comments, I guess "bok bok bok" must mean pass, although I am at a loss as to why.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 07:43

Yes, I think "buck buck brawwwwwwwk" would have probably got the point across more clearly.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 09:24

I'd pass this.

But what do you bid if partner bids 5 over their blackwood?
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Posted 2010-February-05, 10:13

gwnn, on Feb 5 2010, 02:55 AM, said:

torn between pass and 2NT, my mind was made up by the poll choices. I am not going to vote for a public confession of my chickenitude.

chickenitis? and it was mispelled, I prefer Bawk Bawk Bawk :P just do it quietly, vis Bawk bawk bawk, besides descretion is the better part of valor :)
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Posted 2010-February-05, 10:14

I think pass is clear, since there could be game but getting in trouble seems much more likely. I have seen this kind of opening work well over the years for people largely because their opponents stretch to overcall and get in trouble.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 10:20

billw55, on Feb 5 2010, 08:33 AM, said:

Comparing the votes and comments, I guess "bok bok bok" must mean pass, although I am at a loss as to why.

go outside with birdseed to feed your chickens after listening to them you will understand :P
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Posted 2010-February-05, 11:32

To the aviary:

It goes 3 p p back to you. Time for the rooster to crow?
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Posted 2010-February-05, 11:46

I'd bid 2NT. This kind of opening bid is just extremely effective when it comes up and one has to accept occasional losses.

As to bidding versus passing, I would certainly bid over a 1 opening. In this sequence my opponents are weaker (opener has only the bottom end of a one-bid) and also more likely to have a fit (six-card suit more likely to find a fit than five-card suit). I'm one-level higher, but I'm NV so this only really costs me when they double and we don't have a fit and I go down multiple tricks. I'm not going to let their intermediate two talk me out of a game contract.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 12:22

I would bid 2NT and not be happy about it, its an overbid but I wanna act.

after passing I would reopen with 4 partner rates to have fit and they rate not to let me play it anyway.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 12:29

Um Fluffy aren't they almost sure to let you play it?? People don't bid 3 if they are willing to bid 4 later...
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