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#1 User is offline   vuroth 

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Posted 2010-March-08, 07:06

Not that I want to blame anyone, really, well except myself if it's my fault. I just want to learn from these disasters.

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P 3♥ P 4♥
P P P

Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2010-March-08, 07:11

no blame. both players have nice maximums for their actions and a near perfect fit. I guess N could be blamed a little bit for having HHx of spades which is a negative factor for opening 3H but if he opens 4H I don't like trying for slam from S either.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 07:14

If anything, North is a little too strong for a 3♥ opening. After a 1♥ or 4♥ opening you would probably have found the slam if opps don't interfere too strongly.

But I would say it's just bad luck.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 07:22

Perfect bidding, no one to blame.

Just switch North minor holding, nothing will change except that opps can take 2 quick ♣ tricks.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 08:54

No blame.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 09:23

This was fine. If you play very aggressive preempts combined with very light openers you might open 1H, and likely still miss slam, but to me this is a normal auction.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 09:32

There are certainly players who would not preempt 3♥ nonvul with this heavy a hand or with this good a spade holding, as you might miss some good spade games. Playing a light opening system, this is much too good for a preempt. But that is purely a matter of style. For most players, this is simply a very maximum 3♥ call.

Responder can hardly be faulted for bidding only 4♥.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 09:34

vuroth, on Mar 8 2010, 08:06 AM, said:

Not that I want to blame anyone, really, well except myself if it's my fault. I just want to learn from these disasters.

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P 3♥ P 4♥
P P P

100% EW as they didn't force you to slam :rolleyes:
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Posted 2010-March-08, 10:39

Thanks guys. I was north, and was really second-guessing my 3♥ bid.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2010-March-08, 11:38

you're 2nd in. it was fine. in my style of pre-empts, 2nd in, equal vul can be a trifle stronger than that
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Posted 2010-March-08, 11:41

If partner's ten of spades were the ten of diamonds instead his hand would look even better to him but slam would be completely hopeless. It's just one of those things.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 12:19

jdonn, on Mar 8 2010, 12:41 PM, said:

If partner's ten of spades were the ten of diamonds instead his hand would look even better to him but slam would be completely hopeless. It's just one of those things.

LOL

jk I love you but AQTx AJxx >>>> AQx AJTxx imo opposite a 3H opener when trying to make slam and it's not really close.
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Posted 2010-March-08, 13:17

PhantomSac, on Mar 8 2010, 01:19 PM, said:

jdonn, on Mar 8 2010, 12:41 PM, said:

If partner's ten of spades were the ten of diamonds instead his hand would look even better to him but slam would be completely hopeless. It's just one of those things.

LOL

jk I love you but AQTx AJxx >>>> AQx AJTxx imo opposite a 3H opener when trying to make slam and it's not really close.

If partner had Kx of one suit and x of the other, which would you want each to be? At best you are grossly exagerating...
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Posted 2010-March-08, 13:29

jdonn, on Mar 8 2010, 02:17 PM, said:

PhantomSac, on Mar 8 2010, 01:19 PM, said:

jdonn, on Mar 8 2010, 12:41 PM, said:

If partner's ten of spades were the ten of diamonds instead his hand would look even better to him but slam would be completely hopeless. It's just one of those things.

LOL

jk I love you but AQTx AJxx >>>> AQx AJTxx imo opposite a 3H opener when trying to make slam and it's not really close.

If partner had Kx of one suit and x of the other, which would you want each to be? At best you are grossly exagerating...

How can he have Kx and a stiff and a club control? Or are you just hoping for no club lead. Anyways, if he had Kx of one and stiff of the other, Kx of spades is not that bad, we're on a hook!
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Posted 2010-March-08, 15:12

Auction was fine, sometimes ou make over tricks.

For some, the North hand would be a 4H bid at those colors, but since
we are talking about a 2nd seat preempt, 3H is fine.
South has 3 tricks, a chance to make a 4th, so 4H will be ok or fairly cold,
but that is this.

Switch the club with the spade suit, and North will still open 3H, but how good
is 5H? And of course North will open 3H also withouth the jack of spade.

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