[wank]

Scoring: IMP

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We bid to 7C which looks fair, but went off on a heart lead. 7NT is 100% on any lead.

Our bidding was:-

1S - 2C (nat GF or 3 card limit raise)
2S (nat extras) - 3C (normal, i.e. extras clubs and confirms 2C was nat G)
4C (nat not RKC) - 4D
4NT - 5S
5NT - 6C
7C

Any reasonable way to get to the top spot?

[Fluffy]

I don't think so, 7NT is better than 7♣ only because south has ♠J, and north won't ever know it.

Only if south decides to raise is pades he will get a full view or noth's hand and maybe decide the best gran (or even 7♠ wich is maybe better than 7♣ also)

[ONEferBRID]

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Any reasonable way to get to the top spot?

I'll make an attempt.
Why 4C over 3C if it is not RKC in a GF auction.
All that "space" between 3C and 4C was wasted.
Better to cuebid over 3C:

1S - 2C!
2S - 3C
3H - 4C!
4D - 4S!
4NT - 5D!
5S - 7NT ( counting 4s, 1h, 1d, 7c = thinking 10 cds combined Clubs )

3H = Ht Ctrl, denies Diam Ctrl
4C! = RKC for Cl in GF auction
4D = 0 or 3
4S! = 2nd step, specific K-ask; 4H would have been ♣Q-ask
       ( all key cards accounted for as well as ♣Q )
4NT = ♠K; NT ( "cheapest" reply here ) shows K of asking suit
5D = 2nd specific K ask; perhaps partner has the ♥K as well for 13 tricks
5S = denies ♥K but have ♠Q if that will help

[manudude03]

ONEferBRID, on Mar 6 2010, 02:57 PM, said:

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Any reasonable way to get to the top spot?

I'll make an attempt.
Why 4C over 3C if it is not RKC in a GF auction.
All that "space" between 3C and 4C was wasted.
Better to cuebid over 3C:

1S - 2C!
2S - 3C
3H - 4C!
4D - 4S!
4NT - 5D!
5S - 7NT ( counting 4s, 1h, 1d, 7c = thinking 10 cds combined Clubs )

3H = Ht Ctrl, denies Diam Ctrl
4C! = RKC for Cl in GF auction
4D = 0 or 3
4S! = 2nd step, specific K-ask; 4H would have been ♣Q-ask
       ( all key cards accounted for as well as ♣Q )
4NT = ♠K; NT ( "cheapest" reply here ) shows K of asking suit
5D = 2nd specific K ask; perhaps partner has the ♥K as well for 13 tricks
5S = denies ♥K but have ♠Q if that will help

Does 3♥ even agree clubs, how do you bid something like AKTxxx AKJ xxx x?

Anyway, my auction also ends in 7♣ .

[ONEferBRID]

manudude03, on Mar 6 2010, 11:16 AM, said:

Does 3♥ even agree clubs, how do you bid something like AKTxxx AKJ xxx x?

Anyway, my auction also ends in 7♣ .

You are right.....
I guess I should have had another cup of coffee.

[kayin801]

I might get to 7S if opener rebids spades strongly... might show some sort of raise on the stiff J. Not as good as 7NT but definitely a decent contract.

[whereagles]

wank, I hear ya. I once bid a grand on this trump suit:

AKQJ8x

x

OF COURSE the suit broke 5-1 and 7NT was cold

[gwnn]

I was at the other end of the same hand (but it was AKQ7th opp stiff J and 5 to the T)! And teammates found the correct grand (a better trump suit or 7NT both worked)