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#1 User is offline   fachiru 

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Posted 2010-March-01, 09:11

Scoring: IMP

So, playing teams, Prd. opens 1♦ as dealer ("standard") and it goes:
1♦-(P)-1♥-(5♣)
P-P-P-?
What is your action and why? assume v. competent prd/opps

Edit: as someone pointed out, it's P-P-? (all pass to you)
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Posted 2010-March-01, 09:42

I show my fit. Partner did not double, so he has not much wasted in clubs which makes our prospects to find a makable game good. The alternative is double, but I doubt that we can get rich defending.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 09:43

Hi:

You listed three passes. If there was only two, X.

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Posted 2010-March-01, 09:57

I think playing any system 5D is a reasonable bid. In a weak NT style, pard would have doubled 5C already with a strong NT? Would be a bigger problem if pard did double --presumably not "support" at this level, just showing a very nice hand --- and might try 6D.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 10:48

Partner not doubling doesn't matter, his double would show extra values. I double because the bad breaks could make 11 tricks difficult especially in what might be a 4-4 fit.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 11:22

fachiru, on Mar 1 2010, 10:11 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

So, playing teams, Prd. opens 1♦ as dealer ("standard") and it goes:
1♦-(P)-1♥-(5♣)
P-P-P-?
What is your action and why? assume v. competent prd/opps

Edit: as someone pointed out, it's P-P-? (all pass to you)

too much guesswork I take the probably money with X and run.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 11:49

Double for me too. I figure the worst likely result is +500 when +600 was available, or maybe +800 when +920 was available. But the upside results are things like +200 v. -100, +500 v. -100, +800 v. +600. And that assumes they never double when 5♦ is down. I feel that the odds favor doubling.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 12:05

Uhh, partner didn't double because we did not promise any values! He would basically pass all hands that are 12-14 balanced!

You have to double here because partner did not show an "offensive" hand, he just said he didn't have a great hand and one of his most common handtypes is still 12-14 balanced.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 12:13

Couldn't bring myself to double with AKJx in opener's suit. 5D looks very promising.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 13:26

I would X, 5D could be the winner though but it seems like a crap shoot.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 13:36

It's just not likely enough that partner is unbalanced. Double.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 17:38

X in standard, however its an easy 5D in an unbalanced 1D setup.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 18:21

opposite a 4+ unbalanced diamond I would bid 5♦ reluctantly, now I double happily.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 18:24

X. 5D is too much of a gamble.
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Posted 2010-March-02, 20:59

I bid 5♦ !
I am optimistic.

I haven't showed support, partner's pass doesn't mean anything, so I make a bid.

(I hope partner raise to 6♦ with medimum hand)
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Posted 2010-March-03, 01:54

X.

What else?

6D will quite often make, and you will hate it, when this is the case,
but it usually pays to take the money, I forget this one quite often.

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Posted 2010-March-03, 01:56

billw55, on Mar 1 2010, 12:49 PM, said:

Double for me too. I figure the worst likely result is +500 when +600 was available, or maybe +800 when +920 was available. But the upside results are things like +200 v. -100, +500 v. -100, +800 v. +600. And that assumes they never double when 5♦ is down. I feel that the odds favor doubling.

6D would score more than 920, since we (and they) are red,
but this does not change your argument much.

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Posted 2010-March-03, 02:51

For just one thing 6♦ is worthwide : Partner is not minimum.
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Posted 2010-March-03, 03:14

For those who play new suit forcing:
I will splinter as responce to 1♦ (3♣ for 13~15 HCP) :P
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Posted 2010-March-03, 03:46

rogerclee, on Mar 1 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

Uhh, partner didn't double because we did not promise any values! He would basically pass all hands that are 12-14 balanced!

You have to double here because partner did not show an "offensive" hand, he just said he didn't have a great hand and one of his most common handtypes is still 12-14 balanced.

With your assumption it is quite easy through:
Here, Partner passed, and I bid 5♦.
(I guess he don't have any ♣ honors, so every honor in his hand fits for you!)
If partner doubles for extra values, then I bid 6♦!
:P :lol: :lol:

I am still afraid that partner has ♣ void and both cases make an overtrick!
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