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Posted 2010-February-24, 18:20

White vs Red, 2nd seat -- MPs
You hold: T753 AT98 A6 KQ8; RHO deals and opens 1
1. Act or pass?
2. If you pass, LHO raises to 2 -- passed around to you.
- Now what - act or pass?
- If you pass, what do you lead?
3. Would you bid differently at IMP scoring?

I held the above hand in a robot MP today and thought it was interesting
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Posted 2010-February-24, 18:23

shyams, on Feb 24 2010, 07:20 PM, said:

White vs Red, 2nd seat -- MPs
You hold: T753 AT98 A6 KQ8; RHO deals and opens 1
1. Act or pass?
2. If you pass, LHO raises to 2 -- passed around to you.
- Now what - act or pass?
- If you pass, what do you lead?
3. Would you bid differently at IMP scoring?

I held the above hand in a robot MP today and thought it was interesting

I double. over 1s.. minimum.

if lho raises to 2s..I got an easy pass now.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 18:24

Pass pass pass.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 18:27

Very clear to pass both times.

Now I guess I would lead a spade.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 18:33

Is it really so clear to pass the second time? Partner needs next to nothing to make 3H or 3C a decent spot.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 18:57

quiddity, on Feb 24 2010, 05:33 PM, said:

Is it really so clear to pass the second time? Partner needs next to nothing to make 3H or 3C a decent spot.

What?
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Posted 2010-February-24, 19:23

rogerclee, on Feb 24 2010, 07:57 PM, said:

quiddity, on Feb 24 2010, 05:33 PM, said:

Is it really so clear to pass the second time?  Partner needs next to nothing to make 3H or 3C a decent spot.

What?

5 clubs to the ace? any hand with 5 hearts? any hand with any 6 card suit? 1444 with a red king and the club J?
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Posted 2010-February-24, 19:45

I would never pass out 2S, easy double. If partner is 1354 oh well we could survive anyways just going down one or two when they're cold, any other shape we have a fit and our fair share of values and no spade wastage, and often we will push them to 3S.

Xing over 1S is quite reasonable also but I would pass.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 21:43

Hate doubling over 1, love doubling over 2.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 01:20

I would Pass first time but I don't think Dbl is as bad as some say. DBL on 2S seems pretty clear.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 04:17

I'd pass twice and lead a or depending on my mood.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 06:53

I do not consider this the right type of hand to act over 1S and pass quickly. I am willing to risk dble over 2S at pairs and would expect partner to bid 2N with 2 suits.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 09:15

I would reopen at imps red, it's a double partscore swing a ton, at MP white it seems pretty lol not to reopen, sorry.

Admittedly if partner is specifically 1444 and chooses to bid 2N and pass 3C we will be in the wrong fit, but maybe he will bid 2N then 3D with that. Interesting problem from his perspective, may depend if he has a good hand or not also (if he's stronger, he might hope to get to hearts since it's higher scoring, weak he will be happy not to be doubled yet). We could be 4324 just as easily, perhaps slightly more easily because we'd be more apt to double 1S with this shape?
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Posted 2010-February-25, 09:34

shyams, on Feb 24 2010, 07:20 PM, said:

White vs Red, 2nd seat -- MPs
You hold: T753 AT98 A6 KQ8; RHO deals and opens 1
1. Act or pass?
2. If you pass, LHO raises to 2 -- passed around to you.
- Now what - act or pass?
- If you pass, what do you lead?
3. Would you bid differently at IMP scoring?

I held the above hand in a robot MP today and thought it was interesting

1) pass
2) pass & K
3) no
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Posted 2010-February-25, 11:33

Dbl first round and take the hand out of the chest.

Not having done that... K.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 14:18

Scoring: MP

The best part about playing a hand in a robot MP is the comparison to other tables that helps construct a "what if" analysis.
The deal was played 28 times and the results of your actions (based on comparisons to other tables)
1. If you Dbl 1; West bids 2 and North bids 4 (long suit, 10-12 total points) which I guess you pass  MP score: 80%
2. If you pass but Dbl 2; North bids 3. East goes on to 3 and plays in a way to cause a 1 trick set     MP score: 57%
3. If you pass and pass; then a K opening limits declarer to 8 tricks         MP score: 44%
                - and any opening lead OR a defensive slip up -- 9 tricks        MP score: 22%
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