[deep]

System 5°major diamond 4°

Scoring: MP

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1♦ (pass) 1♥ (pass)
2nt (pass) ? what bid south?

I should communicate that the hearts are 5° and that have the points, therefore should change color therefore 3♠ or 3♣. But 3♣ is Stayman and i not have ♠ or 3♦ is support weak diamond. What to do?

Thanks to all for the help

[pooltuna]

deep, on Feb 22 2010, 05:20 PM, said:

System 5°major diamond 4°

Scoring: MP

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1♦ (pass) 1♥ (pass)
2nt (pass) ? what bid south?

I should communicate that the hearts are 5° and that have the points, therefore should change color therefore 3♠ or 3♣. But 3♣ is Stayman and i not have ♠ or 3♦ is support weak diamond. What to do?

Thanks to all for the help

combined assets are 30-31 just bid 3NT and don't worry about it anymore

[MinorKid]

I'll try 3♠!
It shows where your honors be!
bid NT or ♦ next round.

You have a five card suit. If most honors are in ♦ ♥ ♠ and he has ♣A,
then 30 HCP is enough for slam!

[straube]

deep, on Feb 22 2010, 05:20 PM, said:

System 5°major diamond 4°

Scoring: MP

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1♦ (pass) 1♥ (pass)
2nt (pass) ? what bid south?

I should communicate that the hearts are 5° and that have the points, therefore should change color therefore 3♠ or 3♣. But 3♣ is Stayman and i not have ♠ or 3♦ is support weak diamond. What to do?

Thanks to all for the help

Revise your system. Consider some version of Wolff signoff.

Until then, bid 3N

[helene_t]

3♣ is not Stayman here, it is check-back-stayman or something like that: it asks for 3-card heart support (and/or 4-card spades if that is a possible holding).

You could bid 3♣ with this hand.

BTW in modern methods, 3♥ would be forcing.

[jjbrr]

3NT

[ArtK78]

3NT seems very reasonable at matchpoints.

[jdonn]

Saying he should bid 3NT misses the point of the question IMO, which is that if 3♣ is checking back it doesn't promise 4 spades as the OP seems to believe, it can be (and usually is) based on 5 hearts checking back for a 3 card fit.

[jjbrr]

jdonn, on Feb 24 2010, 11:39 AM, said:

Saying he should bid 3NT misses the point of the question IMO, which is that if 3♣ is checking back it doesn't promise 4 spades as the OP seems to believe, it can be (and usually is) based on 5 hearts checking back for a 3 card fit.

It may be a language issue, but I interpreted "what bid south?" to mean "what bid south?" which is the question I and others provided an answer for.

I, personally, hoped that my failure to address what 3♣ should be would imply that 3♣ is not what I think OP should bid, and therefore shouldn't be a concern. If OP wanted to know what 3♣ should mean, it seems more effective to not give a hand that shouldn't bid 3♣, or to use the handy search feature to find other threads that deal with the topic.

[jdonn]

I agree you answered the question. I didn't say you didn't, I just said you missed the point. Maybe my interpretation of "But 3♣ is Stayman" is off, but I took "3♣ is stayman" to mean the OP thinks 3♣ promises 4 spades and "but" to mean that therefore he had no way to check back for a heart fit. So letting him know 3♣ doesn't promise 4 spades and can be used to check back for a heart fit addresses his concern IMO.