[rogerclee]

w/w IMPs

AQxxx QJ QJx AJ9

P 3H ?

[P_Marlowe]

3S.

You are certainly max for the call, but there are downgrading features,
and as long as p knowes we play IMPs, we wont miss a lot of making
games.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[quiddity]

Max for the call?!
Anyway, I'd probably bid 3S too.

[jdonn]

Ugh 3♠ please don't double thanks.

[jjbrr]

3♠

[peachy]

3S but hoping I wasn't turning plus into minus. The upside is clear, we might have game even with a passed partner opposite and at the very least, 3S could be making while -1 isn't a catastrophe. I am worried about the down 2 doubled but still bidding 3S.

[655321]

Sure, the hand is not great, but it still looks like an obvious 3♠ to me.

I am guessing you were thinking about passing instead?

[the hog]

3S. Agree that this looks obvious.

[aguahombre]

655321, on Feb 7 2010, 08:10 PM, said:

Sure, the hand is not great, but it still looks like an obvious 3♠ to me.

I am guessing you were thinking about passing instead?

Is this one of those polls to see if a significant minority of one's peers would consider passing and some of those would actually pass?

I would guess yes to the first part and probably not to the second. Just guessing, of course --not pretending to be one of roger's peers.

[rogerclee]

I did not hold this hand, but when I saw it I thought x, 3S, and pass were all reasonable. Since I never pass, I thought it was close between x and 3S.

Anyway at the table partner has 9xx Kxx 8xx KQxx, so:

If you pass, 3H goes down 2 and you go +100.
If you double, partner bids 3N and it drifts down 1 for -50.
If you bid 3S, partner bids 4S and you go for -800 (pretty unlucky; HA, heart ruff, DAK, diamond ruff, and you still have 2 natural trump losers).

[655321]

rogerclee, on Feb 7 2010, 10:51 PM, said:

Anyway at the table partner has 9xx Kxx 8xx KQxx, so:

If you bid 3S, partner bids 4S and you go for -800.

I know, I have just been told that bidding 4♠ gets -800 so I am probably biased, but does this really seem like a raise after LHO opened 3♥?

[rogerclee]

655321, on Feb 7 2010, 09:01 PM, said:

rogerclee, on Feb 7 2010, 10:51 PM, said:

Anyway at the table partner has 9xx Kxx 8xx KQxx, so:

If you bid 3S, partner bids 4S and you go for -800.

I know, I have just been told that bidding 4♠ gets -800 so I am probably biased, but does this really seem like a raise after LHO opened 3♥?

I actually wasn't sure but decided eventually that I would raise to game (as did the person at the table). Feel free to disagree, I don't feel incredibly strongly about it.

[aguahombre]

raising to four with a working five count seems wrong, since the 3S bidder is already assuming around 6 to 8.

[jdonn]

655321, on Feb 7 2010, 11:01 PM, said:

rogerclee, on Feb 7 2010, 10:51 PM, said:

Anyway at the table partner has 9xx Kxx 8xx KQxx, so:

If you bid 3S, partner bids 4S and you go for -800.

I know, I have just been told that bidding 4♠ gets -800 so I am probably biased, but does this really seem like a raise after LHO opened 3♥?

I was thinking the exact same thing. Maybe it's bias but I doubt north should raise. We are playing him for most of what he has, his trumps are bad, and his hand is flat.