[mr1303]

Scoring: MP

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You get dealt this nice hand, and partner opens 1NT (15-17)

Fairly standard agreements here, Stayman and 4 suit transfers.

[jdonn]

What are the 3 level bids in response to 1NT?

[the hog]

If you play 4 suit transfers what are your follow ups? Does a new suit show a singleton or is it natural? If natural, I would transfer to Ds and then bid Cs.

[jjbrr]

so 3♦ is 5-5 minors and forcing? i bid that.

good system. easy game.

[rogerclee]

With one guy I actually play 3C and 3D both show a GF with the minors, but 3C is stronger. Not sure about that, but it works well on this hand.

[jjbrr]

cleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[mike777]

mr1303, on Feb 4 2010, 07:20 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

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You get dealt this nice hand, and partner opens 1NT (15-17)

Fairly standard agreements here, Stayman and 4 suit transfers.

2s mss

[PhantomSac]

mike777, on Feb 4 2010, 11:25 PM, said:

mr1303, on Feb 4 2010, 07:20 PM, said:

Dealer: North Vul: None Scoring: MP

♠ A ♥ Ax ♦ 10xxxx ♣ AK987

You get dealt this nice hand, and partner opens 1NT (15-17)

Fairly standard agreements here, Stayman and 4 suit transfers.

2s mss

heres to another 10,000 posts like this!

[Siegmund]

In fairness to Mike, there was a time that 2S MSS, 2NT clubs, 3C diamonds WAS what was most commonly meant by "4-suit transfers." In my neck of the woods, two-under transfers appeared around 2000 and caught on like wildfire within just a few years - I think because nobody had decent followups to MSS anyway.

As to the original hand, if you have a way to show both minors, use it, obviously; if you don't, well, that's too bad on this deal. I guess I'd transfer to clubs, and start cueing if partner shows a positive (for me a positive is any of A, K, or Q, and I'm gambling it's not Qx.) If partner turns you down, or your agreement is to have Kxx or better for a positive.... the good news is 3NT with overtricks beats all the pairs who have bidding accidents, as well as being the top spot if the slam isn't there.

[mr1303]

2S is a transfer to clubs, 2nt a transfer to diamonds.

Transfer then new suit is natural, showing a 2 suited hand.

If you bid 2S partner will pre-accept with 2nt

If you bid 2nt partner will bid 3D

No useful 3 level responses here, they show single-suited slam tries

[effervesce]

Since you don't have a gadget for 5-5 minors, I'd transfer to clubs and then bid diamonds. Which doesn't show the 5 diamonds, true, but the diamonds are pretty poor anyway.

[hotShot]

I'll transfer to ♦and show ♣ afterwards.

[jdonn]

I'll transfer to clubs and show diamonds since I don't think diamonds are likely to be right in a 5-3 fit, although I admit they could be. Also showing the suits this way is a level lower than the other way around.

[CSGibson]

Add me to the transfer to clubs and bid diamonds. In fact, I think you should probably systematically define that series of bids as any minor suit hand with slam interest and both minors, combination of 9 cards in the minors, when you have these hand types, given your other methods.

[chasetb]

mr1303, on Feb 4 2010, 07:20 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

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You get dealt this nice hand, and partner opens 1NT (15-17)

Fairly standard agreements here, Stayman and 4 suit transfers.

2♠ as Minor-suit Stayman, easy for me.

If partner bids 2NT, I bid 3♥ to show a really nice ♣ suit and definite slam interest. If partner bids 3♣ or 3♦ (showing 4 or rarely 5), I use Kickback to ask.

[jdonn]

chasetb, on Feb 15 2010, 01:24 AM, said:

mr1303, on Feb 4 2010, 07:20 PM, said:

Dealer: North Vul: None Scoring: MP

♠ A ♥ Ax ♦ 10xxxx ♣ AK987

You get dealt this nice hand, and partner opens 1NT (15-17)

Fairly standard agreements here, Stayman and 4 suit transfers.

2♠ as Minor-suit Stayman, easy for me.

If partner bids 2NT, I bid 3♥ to show a really nice ♣ suit and definite slam interest. If partner bids 3♣ or 3♦ (showing 4 or rarely 5), I use Kickback to ask.

And if you're playing the system actually being asked about you....... ?

[chasetb]

jdonn, on Feb 15 2010, 01:49 AM, said:

chasetb, on Feb 15 2010, 01:24 AM, said:

If partner bids 2NT, I bid 3♥ to show a really nice ♣ suit and definite slam interest.  If partner bids 3♣ or 3♦ (showing 4 or rarely 5), I use Kickback to ask.

And if you're playing the system actually being asked about you....... ?

I'll transfer to Diamonds, use 4♥ as Kickback to ask about AK and Q of Diamonds. If partner doesn't show anything good, then I'll close-out in 5♦. If it happens that our ♣ suit is better, then that'll teach you and partner to use 2♠ as Minor-suit Stayman!!!

[neilkaz]

mr1303, on Feb 5 2010, 04:17 AM, said:

2S is a transfer to clubs, 2nt a transfer to diamonds.

Transfer then new suit is natural, showing a 2 suited hand.

If you bid 2S partner will pre-accept with 2nt

If you bid 2nt partner will bid 3D

No useful 3 level responses here, they show single-suited slam tries

WTP then since you say transfer and new suit is natural as shows a 2 suited hand.

Transfer to ♣ then bid 3♦.

[jdonn]

chasetb, on Feb 15 2010, 09:43 PM, said:

jdonn, on Feb 15 2010, 01:49 AM, said:

chasetb, on Feb 15 2010, 01:24 AM, said:

If partner bids 2NT, I bid 3♥ to show a really nice ♣ suit and definite slam interest.  If partner bids 3♣ or 3♦ (showing 4 or rarely 5), I use Kickback to ask.

And if you're playing the system actually being asked about you....... ?

I'll transfer to Diamonds, use 4♥ as Kickback to ask about AK and Q of Diamonds. If partner doesn't show anything good, then I'll close-out in 5♦. If it happens that our ♣ suit is better, then that'll teach you and partner to use 2♠ as Minor-suit Stayman!!!

True, if you don't use minor suit stayman you are banned from showing both suits so you force to slam in the weaker one, that'll teach us!

[Fluffy]

playing my system I'd try 2♠ then 3♦to show the minors, althou anyone could be longer, the important thing is partner is gonna bid 3NT when slam is poor.