[Apollo81]

Vul against not, imps

♠x
♥Jxx
♦QJ
♣QJTxxxx

(1♠) p (4NT) 5♣
(p) ?

[hotShot]

I'll pass.

One of the opps has to have a ♣ void.
If LHO is bidding 4NT with a void, ....
RHO's pass probably shows 1 ace if they play D0P1.

They don't know yet that they can live with a missing ♣A and I won't tell them.
If they bid on I can still bid 6 or 7 ♣.

[ArtK78]

Maybe partner is the one with the club void.

I have seen stranger things. He bid 5♣ for the lead against a spade contract, planning to run to his long red suit if doubled.

In any event, I pass.

[gwnn]

I never passed with 7 card support in my life and I am not starting today. This is a very simple-minded and flawed approach to bridge I guess but at least it deters partners from bidding 5♣ on AKx and out and think they are being funny.

[jjbrr]

vul against not? lol. i'll raise to 6.

[hanp]

Pass. Partner has a club void.

[aguahombre]

too many indicators that pard is void in clubs.

[NickRW]

I too think p is the one with the void - pass

[akhare]

Apollo81, on Feb 2 2010, 10:31 AM, said:

Vul against not, imps

♠x
♥Jxx
♦QJ
♣QJTxxxx

(1♠) p (4NT) 5♣
(p) ?

Hmm... pard is either massively two suited with longer clubs or has a ♣ void is hoping I have a sense of humour.

However, I don't think that the latter explanation carries much weight since a lightner X conveys the message if they do bid slam.

[hanp]

A massive 2-suiter and the longest suit has 6 cards headed by the ace-king-empty? Vul against not? I don't think so. And there's also the fact that it doesn't sound like both opponents have a club void.

[jjbrr]

why can you infer they both dont have a club void, han?

i infered they don't have any agreement about what to do, and therefore probably are bad enough to keycard with voids, etc.

[Jlall]

Yeah I'd pass, it's not like bidding 6C now gains much, it takes some room away from them for trying to 7 and that's about it.

[hotShot]

ArtK78, on Feb 2 2010, 05:46 PM, said:

Maybe partner is the one with the club void.

I hope that the original poster would have said, if he had a random partner or one with creative ideas.

But you' re right I thought for a moment that the void could be held by a future ex-partner.

[Apollo81]

hotShot, on Feb 2 2010, 01:32 PM, said:

I hope that the original poster would have said, if he had a random partner or one with creative ideas.

That would have spoiled it. BTW, CHO didn't have a club void

[Fluffy]

Partner might have 5 clubs and 6 hearts for example and is willing to show both suits.

Also LHO might be a joker here given the vulnerability.

I'd pass for now.

[TimG]

Fluffy, on Feb 2 2010, 01:59 PM, said:

Partner might have 5 clubs and 6 hearts for example and is willing to show both suits.

Isn't that more than a bit nuts? At what level is partner going to be able to later show the longer hearts?

[MFA]

lol, what the ***** is going on.

[Apollo81]

Followup question for the passers: what are you doing over each of the following:

1. 5♠-P-P
2. 5♠-X-P
3. 6♠-P-P
4. 6♠-X-P

[hotShot]

1) pass, I don't want to drive the to a making slam.
2) 6♣, sorry partner but your ♣ tricks won't make.
3) pass, going down is too expensive since they are white and we are red
4) 7♣, now we can afford down 4 (may be down 5 is not a catastrophe) if they are making and partner should have more than ♣AK. Hope they make and are not overbidding.

[Pict]

I voted pass and now four more passes - are they off, making seven, don't know.