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#1 User is offline   kfay 

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Posted 2010-January-29, 09:03

Scoring: IMP

(1♥)-?-(2♥)-P
(P)-?


What's your call at both turns?
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Posted 2010-January-29, 09:05

P; 3♣ for me
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Posted 2010-January-29, 09:10

2♣ and pass.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-January-29, 09:20

2♣ the first time. If the auction doesn't change after that, Pass.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 09:29

2C and pass, and it seems wtp
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Posted 2010-January-29, 10:17

IMO passing initially with this hand is pretty lol. Of course if I passed initially I have to bid 3C even though it is way more dangerous than before and the upside is way smaller.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 10:21

rogerclee, on Jan 29 2010, 11:17 AM, said:

IMO passing initially with this hand is pretty lol. Of course if I passed initially I have to bid 3C even though it is way more dangerous than before and the upside is way smaller.

more a question of style IMO. with 80% of my pds i bid 2♣, but the other 20% would expect better ♣ with at least AJ
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Posted 2010-January-29, 10:28

2♣ then pass this is not a problem.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 10:29

As little as C-QJx and H-stop to make 3N a favorite and not in this auction?
Let alone what mysticism in reopening this not-a-2C-overcall forces.
Tell me a working scheme exists? I'd be astounded to hear such.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 10:40

2♣ and pass. From what I see above, this is almost unanimous.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 10:45

gnasher et al
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Posted 2010-January-29, 11:19

#1 2C - what else? I have a 6 carder
#2 Pass, what else? The 6 carder is not of the best quality

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Posted 2010-January-29, 11:32

2♣ and pass
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Posted 2010-January-29, 12:06

any non 2C then pass is LOL.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 13:14

2♣ then double.
I fail to see why it should be clear to sell out to 2♥ with this hand. Seems too soft imo.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 13:27

MFA, on Jan 29 2010, 02:14 PM, said:

2♣ then double.
I fail to see why it should be clear to sell out to 2♥ with this hand. Seems too soft imo.

Because partner passed when we overcalled at the 2 level rather than doing something else, and we have a complete min for offense, and good defense, and no extra shape at all?
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Posted 2010-January-29, 13:31

MFA, on Jan 29 2010, 02:14 PM, said:

2♣ then double.
I fail to see why it should be clear to sell out to 2♥ with this hand. Seems too soft imo.

I don't get it. You don't have extra shape. You don't have extra offense. You don't have extra values.

And what about the intangibles, in other words, you don't have the right shape for a double. It's not the right vul to double. It's not the most important form of scoring to double. Your clubs aren't good.

Are you just going to reopen on any hand at all with a small doubleton heart?
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Posted 2010-January-29, 14:28

Marginal, sure.
But we have three aces and good middle cards in clubs. And our shape is fine for double, since we a only one diamond card away from the perfect 3136.
Three aces is also fine for defence, but we have two very small hearts so it could be a quite 'pure' deal with a lot of tricks.
Also we have a dreadful lead, so we are not going to set them as often as DeepFinesse would. Are we going to cash aces? Or lead a trump and see our ruffs disappear?

Double has a lot going for it. But I consider it marginal.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 16:26

I would lead the club ace.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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