[kayin801]

1)

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1♥-?

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This one maybe too straight forward, especially considering that recent discussion of P/X/2♥


2)

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1♥-?

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You play strong club, 1♦ is 2+ suit, 1NT is good 10 to bad 14 in this seat, 2♣ is ostensibly 6+ suit 11-15, but in 3rd seat this can be relaxed to 5 cards with an appropriate hand (so all 3 bids are technically okay)


3)

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1♥-?

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Bidding explanation:
1NT was 10-12,
2♦ was inquiring about a 5 card major and invitational, or the start of a GF, LHO also made a lead directing X over this bid,
2NT showed no 5 card major and a min,
3♥ was a 5+ suit and GF,
4♥ showed 3 or 4 card support, presumably not with a good hand for what had been shown since cuebids were available
4♠ was RKC for hearts
5♣ was 0/3, presumably 0 since partner wouldn't have bid this way with AAK

Also, is 4♠ an overbid?

[jdonn]

1. DBL

2. 2♣

3. I don't like this start to the auction at all, would be much more comfortable showing clubs then hearts. Anyway I think 4♠ is an overbid. We have 23-25 with possibly just an 8 card fit, our trumps aren't good, it's just too much of a guess.

[kayin801]

jdonn, on Jan 27 2010, 11:29 AM, said:

3. I don't like this start to the auction at all, would be much more comfortable showing clubs then hearts. Anyway I think 4♠ is an overbid. We have 23-25 with possibly just an 8 card fit, our trumps aren't good, it's just too much of a guess.

I probably could have started by showing GF w/ clubs, though I might have trouble convincing partner I have 5 hearts after that. I also probably forgot to mention the two options that passed through my mind: pass (play in 5♣) or 5♥. Agree in general w/ what you said though.

[pooltuna]

kayin801, on Jan 27 2010, 01:26 PM, said:

1)

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1♥-?

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This one maybe too straight forward, especially considering that recent discussion of P/X/2♥


2)

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1♥-?

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You play strong club, 1♦ is 2+ suit, 1NT is good 10 to bad 14 in this seat, 2♣ is ostensibly 6+ suit 11-15, but in 3rd seat this can be relaxed to 5 cards with an appropriate hand (so all 3 bids are technically okay)


3)

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1♥-?

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Bidding explanation:
1NT was 10-12,
2♦ was inquiring about a 5 card major and invitational, or the start of a GF, LHO also made a lead directing X over this bid,
2NT showed no 5 card major and a min,
3♥ was a 5+ suit and GF,
4♥ showed 3 or 4 card support, presumably not with a good hand for what had been shown since cuebids were available
4♠ was RKC for hearts
5♣ was 0/3, presumably 0 since partner wouldn't have bid this way with AAK

Also, is 4♠ an overbid?

1} double
2} 15 pearson points, 2♣, and all the advantages of a 2 level preempt
3} based on this auction I would pass, allowing my partner to play the hand and giving my temporary insanity a chance to dispell

[Jlall]

On 1 I would double but it's definitely aggressive and pass is fine if you prefer that. Obviously 2C is a joke.

[jjbrr]

I would pass 1

10-14 red opposite a passed hand? Even if that's available, I'll still try 2♣. At least some of their doubles are takeout!

You don't have a system where you can show the longest suit in your hand after a 1NT opener? wat?

[hanp]

I like the jdonn answers.

[Codo]

pass, 2♣ change system.

Why must I ask for a 5 card major when I have a 2506 hand? Maybe your system is great, but it seem not to work well for this hand.

[andy_h]

Does anyone have a system that shows 5M-6m other than just 5+M 5+m?

[Jlall]

andy_h, on Jan 28 2010, 10:03 AM, said:

Does anyone have a system that shows 5M-6m other than just 5+M 5+m?

When playing 4 way transfers I play transfer to the minor then 4 of the major = 5-6, but I have no bid if I'm 5-6 and slammish since that auction is just choice of games.

[Free]

pass, I don't like Dbl with such hand, 2♣ is ridiculous
2♣, lets get our suit in, and keep opps from overcalling low
change system

[Fluffy]

1&2 agree with jdown.

about 3:

4♠ is not an overbid, is a hopeless bid, we have a void!!, what help would be get if partner tells us he's got 1?

partner has 3+ hearts and 2+ clubs so although clubs might produce a very large fit, they will both be 8 card fit the same % (aprox) I think.

But our missing heart honnors are losing tricks playing on any strain (normally), but playing in hearts we can ruff a club in dummy, so I go for the heart fit.

[kayin801]

Jlall, on Jan 28 2010, 08:04 AM, said:

andy_h, on Jan 28 2010, 10:03 AM, said:

Does anyone have a system that shows 5M-6m other than just 5+M 5+m?

When playing 4 way transfers I play transfer to the minor then 4 of the major = 5-6, but I have no bid if I'm 5-6 and slammish since that auction is just choice of games.

On this hand I could just bid this equivalently in our system (1NT-2C (stayman-like)-2something-3C(GF w/ clubs)-(something)-4H) and partner would probably get the idea, though it was undiscussed at the time. That may make more sense for this hand though. For the system bashers, it didn't occur to me at the time to do this, it was just "show your major first".

This is one of the types of hands I've ALWAYS had trouble with though, so I'm just curious and willing to take input, is the decision to bid the minor first based simply on the fact that there's more of them or is it the suit quality too? So say I held Ax, AKJ9x, -, Jxxxxx (okay that's a little extreme) do you still want to show clubs first, or is this more of a "hand feel" sort of thing?

(BTW partner held something gross like KJxx, Q9xx, Kxx, Qx and that having been said 6 could make with a correct spade guess and a double finesse in hearts against K10x... not to justify this or anything)

[rogerclee]

1) I would pass, don't like to double with 3 spades when we are offshape and have no game.
2) I would open 1N but feel like 2C is completely fine.

[Jlall]

I think you bid it fine, your hand has a ton of slam potential. It is normal to transfer and bid clubs with a hand like this if you don't have special methods.

[Dirk Kuijt]

1. Pass, but I'm more conservative than most. Dbl is OK, 2♣ is out.

2. 2♣ seems clear

3. 4♠ seems confused to me. The hand has a small doubleton and a void; those are both no-nos for Blackwood. While the earlier bidding is unclear to me (what kind of hands would partner cue bid with earlier?), it seems that partner could have:

♠Axx
♥KQxx
♦xxxx
♣Qx

(7♥ is cold)

or

♠KJx
♥QJx
♦KQJx
♣xxx

(on a bad day, even 4♥ fails).

Those are extreme examples, but lots of hand with 2keys make 6♥, and another lot of them have no play, depending on whether partner has strength in diamonds or not.