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Posted 2010-January-24, 23:10

IMP NV

Jxxx,Ax,AQxx,AKx

1♦:2♦* inverted
2♥*:3♦ *stopper
?
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Posted 2010-January-24, 23:39

I would just bid 3N. Seems hard for slam to be on, and the 5 level is not safe.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 01:24

Some people play that
1♦ - 2♦ (inverted)
3NT
shows 18-19 balanced.

This would enable you to show your hand on the previous round.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 01:53

mich-b, on Jan 25 2010, 12:24 AM, said:

Some people play that
1♦ - 2♦ (inverted)
3NT
shows 18-19 balanced.

This would enable you to show your hand on the previous round.

This.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 02:46

I play 3N directly shows a non-slammish 18-19 bal. I don't think this qualifies, but after 3D slam seems pretty remote.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 08:16

If partner responds 2♠ not 3♦, does this change your bid?

Jxxx,Ax,AQxx,AKx

1♦:2♦* inverted
2♥:2♠ stoppers
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Posted 2010-January-25, 08:53

Can't I bid 3♣ now? Of course, if partner bids 3♦, I'm not sure. Maybe in that case 3NT.

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Posted 2010-January-25, 17:54

mich-b, on Jan 25 2010, 09:24 AM, said:

Some people play that
1♦ - 2♦ (inverted)
3NT
shows 18-19 balanced.

This would enable you to show your hand on the previous round.

I play that 2NT shows 18-19 and 3NT (13)14.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 18:03

No doubt I would bid 3NT like, I guess, everyone else. But consider an alternative auction 1D-2D-3C-3D-3H. It's at least possible that this hand will make 5 or 6 diamonds while the opponents can take the first five spades in NT. Since Qx in spades is adequate I guess I wouldn't push this approach here but as a general tool when holding club and heart stops, it seems not totally nuts.

Perhaps the fact that responder did not bid 3♠ over 2♥ should rule out a stiff spade but with minimal values for his 2♦ bid he might wish to show that feature first.

But at the table I probably bid an unimaginative 3NT directly over 2♦. 18-19, more or less balanced, that's what I have.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 03:50

koen said:

slem

slam
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Posted 2010-January-26, 08:58

jillybean, on Jan 25 2010, 12:10 AM, said:

IMP NV

Jxxx,Ax,AQxx,AKx

1♦:2♦* inverted
2♥*:3♦ *stopper
?

not overly familiar with IV but wouldn't a second round call of 3NT show this hand?
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Posted 2010-January-26, 09:41

Jxxx,Ax,AQxx,AKx

1♦:2♦
3N

This may be the book bid but since we are already in a gf auction do I really want to shut partner out of the auction so soon?
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Posted 2010-January-26, 09:53

jillybean, on Jan 26 2010, 10:41 AM, said:

Jxxx,Ax,AQxx,AKx

1♦:2♦
3N

This may be the book bid but since we are already in a gf auction do I really want to shut partner out of the auction so soon?

I am not trying to shut them out. I am making the most descriptive call I can....Okay I am dumping the captaincy of the hand on them so I can win the post mortem B)
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Posted 2010-January-26, 10:10

Wouldn't you make the same 3NT rebid with 4432 18-19? Seems like with AQxx of diamonds you should not dismiss slam possibilities or the likelihood that diamonds will play better than notrump.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 16:35

I play the direct 3NT as 18-19 with 3 cards in the minor, so if it's diamonds it's specifically 4432. When you only have a 3 card suit but you have slam interest you want to get that information across.

I don't see what the problem is on the given hand, 3NT now. Partner is only invitational so slam is unlikely. And of course I don't want to miss 3NT but I'm not bidding 3♠ with AK of clubs.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 19:00

1m - 2m!
3NT = picture bid, 18,19, balanced

1m - 2m!
2M = either unbalanced with M or concentration of strength in M and m.

1D - 2D!
3C = either unbalanced with Cl or concentration of strength in the minors.

likewise for
1C - 2C!
2D
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