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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2010-January-23, 00:10

Scoring: IMP

1♠-1nt
3♥-4♥
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Posted 2010-January-23, 00:24

Weird hand... guess I'd give it 5H, we don't need much for slam.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 02:15

One more try with 5H.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 02:17

yes!
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Posted 2010-January-23, 05:01

Hi,

I think, it is only the question, if you want to insist on slam
or just invite.
If p could still have 10-12 bal., I guess you should just bid
6H, if he already has denied this hand (*), than 5H may well be
enough, but 6H ist still tempting.

(*) Depends to a large degree about the meaning of 4m, if 4m is
natural or if it is a cue.

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Posted 2010-January-23, 06:02

Jlall, on Jan 23 2010, 01:24 AM, said:

Weird hand... guess I'd give it 5H, we don't need much for slam.

Your partner's must expect a lot from your hand for a 5♥ bid I would bid 6 :)
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Posted 2010-January-23, 11:50

I have to try once, something on the 5-level. Probably just 5H. I can't afford to bid 4S, partner might be misled about my heart length.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 11:57

I know 5♥ asks him to look at his majors, but xx Kxxx or x Jxxx makes a decent slam. I don't think he's going to accept the try with that, so I'd bid 6♥ myself.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-January-23, 12:09

I have to take one more call for slam here. I think it is a bit aggressive just to bid 6♥ outright, but it maybe close to 50/50.

Lacking firm agreements about what 5m would mean here, I think I just try 5♥.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 12:39

I'm closer to busting out 6♥ than I am to passing. x JTxx xxxx xxxx has play for a grand, after all.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 13:23

6♥ for me.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 13:38

First choice 6♥, second choice a cuebid - God only knows which one.

Definitely not bidding 5♥, which supposedly says I am afraid of my trump quality for slam, and I can make slam opposite a lot of Jxx and Jxxx heart holdings.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 21:07

gnasher, on Jan 23 2010, 12:57 PM, said:

I know 5♥ asks him to look at his majors, but xx Kxxx or x Jxxx makes a decent slam. I don't think he's going to accept the try with that, so I'd bid 6♥ myself.

Yeah I agree 5H can miss some good slams but I think it avoids more bad slams than it misses good ones. I guess one thing working in it's favor is sometimes on the bad layouts you're too high in 5 anyways.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 21:20

if we haven't promised 5 hearts yet I like my chances in 6♥ right now, otherwise it is a lot tougher, and even pass might be indicated.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 06:28

4 ♥ was the weakest bid partner could make- besides 4 ♠. So 6♥ is too much for me. I try 5.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 06:29

4 ♥ was the weakest bid partner could make- besides 4 ♠. So 6♥ is too much for me. I try 5.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 06:49

Codo, on Jan 25 2010, 05:59 PM, said:

4 ♥ was the weakest bid partner could make- besides 4 ♠. So 6♥ is too much for me. I try 5.

How would partner make a strong heart raise? Is 4m not natural?
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Posted 2010-January-25, 08:37

I don't know what is the official style, but my partner can't. They can bid 3 NT with heavy minors, 3 Spade with spades and anything else ist heading towards slam in Hearts.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 09:03

mohitz, on Jan 25 2010, 07:49 AM, said:

Codo, on Jan 25 2010, 05:59 PM, said:

4 ♥ was the weakest bid partner could make- besides 4 ♠. So 6♥ is too much for me. I try 5.

How would partner make a strong heart raise? Is 4m not natural?

4m is a cue for hearts
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Posted 2010-January-25, 09:31

4m cue or natural see this recent short discussion
http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0&#entry427015
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