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#21 User is offline   Jlall 

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Posted 2010-January-25, 10:01

jdonn, on Jan 24 2010, 02:10 PM, said:

Jlall, on Jan 24 2010, 04:16 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jan 23 2010, 11:40 PM, said:

I think the actions are so close that it's hard to be objective knowing the result. I can definitely believe I would duplicate both.

What really? Did you see that it was matchpoints? I honestly can't imagine you doing anything else

Actually no I didn't lol. This is probably minority to say btw, but I'm closer to passing with west than not-passing the double with east.

I would expect that to be completely mainstream heh.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 10:14

MarkDean, on Jan 24 2010, 03:37 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 23 2010, 08:05 PM, said:

west's action is a wtp to me, would act even with a king less.

pass decision is right in my views althou a somehow closer still no alternative.

You would really double with

♠ Q754
♥ Q3
♦ Q852
♣ KQ6
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Yes that's what I was saying, I like live seat acting to be sounder than mosts, I might pass some minimum opening strenght hands with a decent suit. The style pays when you have slams (bidding already shows a good hand), althou hurts on more common situations.

1 Month ago I would think ♥Qx and ♥xx were exactly the same, but reading the forums is maybe changing my way of thinking.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 10:17

Fluffy, on Jan 25 2010, 11:14 AM, said:

MarkDean, on Jan 24 2010, 03:37 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 23 2010, 08:05 PM, said:

west's action is a wtp to me, would act even with a king less.

pass decision is right in my views althou a somehow closer still no alternative.

You would really double with

♠ Q754
♥ Q3
♦ Q852
♣ KQ6
?

Yes that's what I was saying, I like live seat acting to be sounder than mosts, I might pass some minimum opening strenght hands with a decent suit. The style pays when you have slams (bidding already shows a good hand), althou hurts on more common situations.

1 Month ago I would think ♥Qx and ♥xx were exactly the same, but reading the forums is maybe changing my way of thinking.

How can Qx and xx be the same? If partner is bidding 3N or passing the HQ is much better than xx. I agree with downgrading Qx obviously since it is worse than any other Q we can have, but giving it a value of 0 is really extreme.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 11:13

I was talking about ♠xxxx ♥Qx vs ♠Qxxx ♥xx
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Posted 2010-January-25, 11:14

Fluffy, on Jan 25 2010, 12:13 PM, said:

I was talking about ♠xxxx ♥Qx vs ♠Qxxx ♥xx

ah i understand now, sorry
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Posted 2010-January-26, 15:30

Thanks for all the replies.

This deal is from Marshall Miles new bidding panel book.



Two panelists said no blame.

Another said West 30% for not passing, East 70% for not pulling.

Sontag and Rodwell said East 100%
"If the partner of the doubler leaves the double in on hands like this, it will discourage him from competing."

Marshall was East and passed at the table.
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