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How good is this hand? Qxxx J98x AJ8x x

Poll: Limit raise or single raise? (43 member(s) have cast votes)

Limit raise or single raise?

  1. Limit Raise (32 votes [74.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.42%

  2. Single Raise (11 votes [25.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.58%

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#21 User is offline   eyhung 

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Posted 2010-January-22, 10:16

chasetb, on Jan 21 2010, 02:00 PM, said:

You have 7 perfectly working HCP, the ♥J98x is definitely worth a point, and the singleton ♣ is worth 2 or 3 points, 3 imo.  That adds up to 11 points, and 10-12 is a mixed raise.  Did 7 people REALLY choose single raise?

I think the standard definition of mixed raise is : 7-9(bad 10) support points(HCP + shortness 1/3/5), 4 trumps, 6-9 HCP. That is, a hand worth just a simple raise except that it holds 4 trump, and one that wouldn't fall into a preemptive raise (most 5 HCP hands with a singleton can preempt). So if you evaluate this as 11, it's too good to be called a "mixed" raise.

I evaluate it as worth a limit raise, but I find Justin's idea of merely blasting game intriguing.
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Posted 2010-January-22, 13:22

20 replies and nobody has agreed with Justin yet? I'm sorry to spoil what would be a unique event in the history of the BBO forums, but I'd bid 4♠.
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Posted 2010-January-22, 15:43

gnasher, on Jan 22 2010, 02:22 PM, said:

20 replies and nobody has agreed with Justin yet? I'm sorry to spoil what would be a unique event in the history of the BBO forums, but I'd bid 4♠.

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I know Han said he'd bid 4S also, but he didn't post it!
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Posted 2010-January-22, 16:08

Jlall, on Jan 22 2010, 04:43 PM, said:

gnasher, on Jan 22 2010, 02:22 PM, said:

20 replies and nobody has agreed with Justin yet?  I'm sorry to spoil what would be a unique event in the history of the BBO forums, but I'd bid 4♠.

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I know Han said he'd bid 4S also, but he didn't post it!

Are you sure? That seems to disagree with his above agreement with me.
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Posted 2010-January-22, 16:11

jdonn, on Jan 22 2010, 05:08 PM, said:

Jlall, on Jan 22 2010, 04:43 PM, said:

gnasher, on Jan 22 2010, 02:22 PM, said:

20 replies and nobody has agreed with Justin yet?  I'm sorry to spoil what would be a unique event in the history of the BBO forums, but I'd bid 4♠.

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I know Han said he'd bid 4S also, but he didn't post it!

Are you sure? That seems to disagree with his above agreement with me.

Reading comprehension?

You said it's closer to too good for a limit raise than not good enough for a limit raise. As someone who bids 4S, I know that I agree with that statement...
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