[frouu]

Scoring: IMP

1♥-p-1NT-p
2♦-p-?

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playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)
2♥ or 3♣?

Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣?

[rogerclee]

3C. I don't know about the in-between cases of suit quality, but xx in hearts and KQJxxx of clubs is a very extreme difference. When it's highly possible your hand will just take 0 tricks in hearts, and you have 6 good clubs, I would prefer to play 3C.

I wouldn't seriously consider 2N, it needs too much to work in my opinion. Starting with an invitational 3C instead of bidding 1N would have been fine (if you play that), but our hand has actually gotten worse from partner's 2D rebid anyway.

[Siegmund]

At MPs you might be willing to consider 2H, given your potential side entry.

If you had a weaker hand (no potential entry outside clubs) the case for 3C would be more compelling. It is probably the right bid anyway at imps.

If you had any honour in hearts, or if you had the CAQ instead of KQJ, I would be willing to play 2H even at imp.

[gwnn]

3♣ at imps, 3♣ at mp's. a plus score is better than a minus score. of course 3♣ is a little underbid but it's better than the hideous 2NT.

[rogerclee]

Just want to add that I agree with gwnn, bidding 2H is a mistake at matchpoints as well in my (strong) opinion.

[nigel_k]

Definitely 3♣ for me too. But I'd like to be able to use 2♠ to show this hand type (among others).

[neilkaz]

I have a good 6 card suit so I bid it and much prefer it to likely putting pard into a 5-2 ♥ fit, even if that is 1 level lower.

[mike777]

frouu, on Jan 20 2010, 05:05 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♥-p-1NT-p
2♦-p-?

---

playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)
2♥ or 3♣?

Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣?

for me easy 2h


3c for me would be invitational.

I have no way to show a weak hand with long clubs on this type of auction.

[rogerclee]

mike777, on Jan 21 2010, 03:26 PM, said:

frouu, on Jan 20 2010, 05:05 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♥-p-1NT-p
2♦-p-?

---

playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)
2♥ or 3♣?

Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣?

for me easy 2h


3c for me would be invitational.

I have no way to show a weak hand with long clubs on this type of auction.

I don't normally do this in the B/I forum, but if that is your agreement, I suggest you play instead

1H-1N
2D-?

2S forces 2N
...3C = 6+C, inv
...3D =D raise, strong invite
...3H = some kind of heart raise, either 3 card limit raise or Hx and a sharp hand, etc
3C = weak with clubs
3D = weaker invite in D
3H = H raise, whatever you decided doesnt go through 2S

[mike777]

rogerclee, on Jan 21 2010, 05:29 PM, said:

mike777, on Jan 21 2010, 03:26 PM, said:

frouu, on Jan 20 2010, 05:05 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♥-p-1NT-p
2♦-p-?

---

playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)
2♥ or 3♣?

Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣?

for me easy 2h


3c for me would be invitational.

I have no way to show a weak hand with long clubs on this type of auction.

I don't normally do this in the B/I forum, but if that is your agreement, I suggest you play instead

1H-1N
2D-?

2S forces 2N
...3C = 6+C, inv
...3D =D raise, strong invite
...3H = some kind of heart raise, either 3 card limit raise or Hx and a sharp hand, etc
3C = weak with clubs
3D = weaker invite in D
3H = H raise, whatever you decided doesnt go through 2S

yes ty we have discussed this before but ty. I think it works if partners could remember it.

[Jlall]

Normally with 2-6 you should bid 2H. However with this hand you should bid 3C.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2H.

I doubt I would ever bid 3C with 2 card support and a 6 card, make it a 7 card,
..., and I will alway bid my suit.

With kind regards
Marlowe